ᐅ Kitchen Price Comparison – Fair or Unrealistic?

Changeling schrieb:
Thanks to induction cooking, a designated area for placing pots might actually be unnecessary, but I’m checking with the cook on that.

Let me address the points:
1. Door blocking: It only leads to the utility room. There’s a freezer right there, which is very convenient for cooking (e.g., parsley).
2. Sink: It will be a double sink, meaning the faucet is positioned between two basins. So the location of the draining board doesn’t really matter (if that was the concern).
3. Dirty dishes go straight into the dishwasher, which is raised and located just to the right. Usually, at most, only a couple of handfuls of dishes are set there temporarily to open it. Occasionally, something large might be placed there and get in the way — I’ll check on that.
4. Work triangle: The idea behind the layout was that the cook can work undisturbed in the back left, while dishes, cutlery, etc. can be brought in and out on the right side. This is very important to us.
5. The half-height cabinets are necessary because we want to install the dishwasher and oven at waist height. We really like the traditional corner cabinets, so we’d like to keep them if at all possible. The kitchen actually has enough space for that.

Chopping will be done between the sink and cooktop, plating on the right, with storage near the fridge for appliances and breakfast/coffee items. This should fit well.

We had considered this, but it goes against the idea of having someone constantly moving behind and beside the cook to set or clear the table. I’ll discuss that again.

Overall, we’re satisfied with the plan; it’s really more a question of whether the price is right.

Your thoughts refer to cooking together on Saturday evenings when guests are over, but not to everyday kitchen use [emoji2]

I would like to join toxicmolotow.

Even without having created a detailed replacement plan, I can confidently say that the one in #184 is disastrous. Space utilization and work ergonomics—nothing works here.

- Diagonal corner cabinets waste space and can cause three drawers to block each other.

- Counter space next to the refrigerator is blocked off, making it highly unergonomic.

- Stove in the corner is not ideal.

- Stove positioned so that the cook’s back faces the door is a no-go.

( - visually, I also find it a catastrophe, but that would be a matter of personal taste ).

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I don’t know the room’s dimensions or whether the water connections are fixed yet.

But just by rough estimation (from now on measured based on the perspective in the first picture) I would

a) fit the wall recess with tall cabinets
b) keep the refrigerator as a freestanding unit where it is, place a straight countertop next to it (not around the corner), with a long wall cabinet above
c) create an L-shape along the two windowed walls
d) move the stove out of its corner a bit to the right
e) shift the sink even further to the right than the stove to create more workspace in between

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That was a quick suggestion—more is possible with actual measurements and details. I also don’t think the room is well-suited for a kitchen. In my opinion, if using an L-shaped layout, the stove somehow needs to be placed on the other leg. But without dimensions, nothing more can be said.

ypg schrieb:
Your thoughts refer to cooking together on Saturday evenings when guests are over, but not to working in the kitchen in everyday life [emoji2]

Actually, that is our everyday routine, which is why we want it that way...

@chand1986: Thanks for your input. As an outsider, I can relate to some of your arguments. But have you read my post #192? That might clarify a few things.

Also, regarding the corner cabinets: we want them like this. All other available corner solutions might save space and be innovative, but we don’t like any of them and don’t want them. This is the only solution we like – and that’s what matters.

So once again, my question, which is why I contributed to this topic: Do the costs fit with this?

Alright, I understand, the plan is set. That’s final. And the fact that you like it is what matters most since you’re the ones paying for it. I think 9,000 for the kitchen shown, fully assembled with decent appliances, is not bad. Let them get a quote from Bosch Siemens again. In my opinion, these are similarly priced to AEG Electrolux but offer better spare parts availability in Germany.

Here’s a rough calculation: 1,500–2,000 for the technical equipment, 1,600 for delivery, installation, and waste disposal. That leaves 5,500–6,000 for the furniture. So... maybe another 1,000 could still be possible. Negotiate again. Karsten

@Changeling
So, there are currently two of you enjoying dinner together. Good for you [emoji2]

But so many users here can’t be wrong: this plan wasn’t created by a professional.
It might be that you like the slanted cabinets, okay... but the layout is a bit of a disaster. Sorry.

Regarding the costs:
I wouldn’t spend a single cent on this design.

Hi there,

why don’t you use a cabinet for the three wall units in the corner like the one shown in your drawing, with a door at the front but no “dead corners” at the back?
Do you know what I mean?
That way, you would have a bit more usable space there.

As for the rest, if you like it that way and are sure you want it, then go ahead and buy it!
Regarding the price, it’s worth trying to negotiate a bit—you never know, it could help.