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The electrician from our general contractor recommended hiring a lighting designer. He “just happens” to know someone for that.
I think having a lighting plan does make sense. However, I’ve seen very different prices. Some offer a fixed price, while others charge according to HOAI (Official Scale of Fees for Services by Architects and Engineers)...
Do you have any recommendations on which pricing model to prefer and what to look out for?
The electrician says the lighting designer should do the planning and then he will handle the installation. On the other hand, there are also lighting designers who not only provide the planning service but also sell the luminaires and want to carry out the installation themselves.
Please share your experiences on this topic.
The electrician from our general contractor recommended hiring a lighting designer. He “just happens” to know someone for that.
I think having a lighting plan does make sense. However, I’ve seen very different prices. Some offer a fixed price, while others charge according to HOAI (Official Scale of Fees for Services by Architects and Engineers)...
Do you have any recommendations on which pricing model to prefer and what to look out for?
The electrician says the lighting designer should do the planning and then he will handle the installation. On the other hand, there are also lighting designers who not only provide the planning service but also sell the luminaires and want to carry out the installation themselves.
Please share your experiences on this topic.
Nordlys schrieb:
And you wonder why you end up paying half a million for a house.... Sabine is so right. Karsten Your comments are becoming increasingly pointless.
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Bau-Schmidt3 Oct 2017 11:44Just a quick question: What is the total building volume of your project?
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R.Hotzenplotz3 Oct 2017 11:46Bau-Schmidt schrieb:
Just a quick question: what is your total building volume?Altogether, this will amount to approximately €880,000 excluding the land purchase.
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Bau-Schmidt3 Oct 2017 11:57You might consider consulting a lighting designer.
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R.Hotzenplotz3 Oct 2017 12:04Bau-Schmidt schrieb:
You might consider consulting a lighting planner.We will probably do that too, even though the advice tended in a different direction. I haven’t had good experiences with lighting in the last two apartments. The first time, we even went to a specialist lighting store and got “consulted.” In the end, we ended up with expensive fixtures that didn’t properly illuminate several rooms at all and didn’t create a coherent overall concept.
In our current rental, we simply installed ceiling fixtures at the fixed wiring points with reasonably priced lights that do their job better than the expensive fixtures in the previous apartment, but of course, that’s nothing great.
Neither of us are experts who can create a plan based on a concept of direct and indirect lighting.
The electrician himself recommended (which should be taken with caution, since they sometimes try to secure contracts) hiring a lighting planner; that might even save money because lighting is installed according to actual need rather than just adding lots of fixtures unnecessarily.
That is a huge topic as well. How do you light outdoor areas and the exterior of the house? Where inside do spots make more sense, where ceiling fixtures, wall lights, or maybe uplighters? As laypeople, we have no proper overview of the market or products, and as I mentioned, visiting a “specialist store” did not help much in our experience.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
In the end, expensive light fixtures were installed that didn’t properly illuminate several rooms and didn’t create a cohesive overall lighting concept. As I already said, a suspended ceiling installed by Heini Huber following a standard template—pearls before swine.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
And we’re neither experts who can design a plan based on a concept of direct and indirect lighting. You know that you don’t want to fall on the stairs (meaning the lighting should be evenly bright), and that for red wine, you prefer dim lighting (for lost earrings or contact lenses, LED flashlights exist).
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
This is also a huge topic. How do you illuminate outdoor areas and building exteriors? Where do spots make sense indoors, where ceiling-mounted fixtures, wall lights, or possibly uplighters? When it comes to security concerns, lighting designers—who often see themselves primarily as lighting decorators—tend to miss the mark.
If you don’t have real architectural highlights on the walls, lighting designers are an unnecessary luxury—but as I said, what is worth planning is the lighting control system.
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