Hello everyone,
Until now, I have only been a silent reader, but things are getting serious.
So, my first question is how you would assess the following offer for surveying services.
Item 1: Site and elevation plan
Item 2: Site plan for the building permit / planning permission
Item 3: Setting out / staking out
Item 4: Building survey after completion
Total price: €1,700 gross
We are building an urban villa with an attached garage/office extension – approximately 200 m² (2,150 sq ft) of living and usable space, near Dresden.
Thanks and best regards,
Martin
Until now, I have only been a silent reader, but things are getting serious.
So, my first question is how you would assess the following offer for surveying services.
Item 1: Site and elevation plan
Item 2: Site plan for the building permit / planning permission
Item 3: Setting out / staking out
Item 4: Building survey after completion
Total price: €1,700 gross
We are building an urban villa with an attached garage/office extension – approximately 200 m² (2,150 sq ft) of living and usable space, near Dresden.
Thanks and best regards,
Martin
Of course, our house’s batter board was laid out based on the stakes provided by the site supervisor. This is standard practice here.
The survey of the finished house depends on the property value and the fee schedule; the surveyor operates officially, and the fee is fixed. For us, it will be 920 euros.
In my opinion, for a developed, defined, and surveyed plot with stakes or boundary markers, additional surveying costs are unnecessary because any trained bricklayer can set up a batter board. I had no further surveying expenses. Karsten
The survey of the finished house depends on the property value and the fee schedule; the surveyor operates officially, and the fee is fixed. For us, it will be 920 euros.
In my opinion, for a developed, defined, and surveyed plot with stakes or boundary markers, additional surveying costs are unnecessary because any trained bricklayer can set up a batter board. I had no further surveying expenses. Karsten
Nordlys schrieb:
Of course, our house string line framework was laid out following the stakes by the site supervisor. I think we’ve already covered this topic before. You were really lucky there. If something goes wrong, not even the construction company's insurance will cover it, because this method is considered grossly negligent. How can the accuracy of the fine staking be ensured if it’s based on wooden stakes? Wooden stakes usually serve as rough guides to roughly outline where the property lies. Therefore, the positional accuracy is about 10cm (4 inches), even if the stakes have not been moved by children, dogs, pranksters, or neighbors.
Nordlys schrieb:
In my opinion, for a developed, defined, surveyed plot with stakes or boundary markers, additional surveying costs are unnecessary, because any trained mason can set up a string line frame. If you trust a wooden stake as a clearly defined boundary point, you can do that. But when a project costs 300,000 and you try to save 300 on the staking, with the risk that you may have to tear out the foundation slab or face unpredictable additional costs due to violating setback regulations, everyone must weigh that risk for themselves.
Zaba12 schrieb:
I would then have the 1–2 positions mentioned above covered. Then I would only need to pay positions 3–4, right? None of the positions mentioned are covered by that. It only means that the costs for subdividing the property are covered by the municipality. Any surveying costs related to construction, such as the site plan for the building permit, rough staking, fine staking, and building measurement, have to be paid by you.
Zaba12 schrieb:
The surveying by the municipality is supposed to take place only after completion. You did participate in the thread by @Evolith.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Vermessung-bezahlen.25556/
It’s common that the boundary markings are done only after the roads are finished.
Zaba12 schrieb:
According to the site plan, the building area consists of 2 parcels covering the entire development. What do you mean by site plan? The excerpt from the cadastral map or your site plan for the building permit showing your project? Do you already have a building permit / planning permission?
Escroda schrieb:
I think we’ve covered this topic before. You were really lucky here. If something goes wrong, not even the construction company’s insurance will cover it because this method is considered grossly negligent. How can you ensure the accuracy of fine surveying if you rely on wooden stakes? Wooden stakes are usually used for rough orientation, just to know where your property is. Therefore, the positional accuracy is about 10cm (4 inches), even if the stakes haven’t been moved by children, dogs, pranksters, or neighbors.
You can trust a wooden stake as a clearly defined boundary point if that’s what you want to do. But when you have a project worth 300,000 (three hundred thousand), saving 300 on the surveying with the risk of having to demolish the foundation or more, or facing unpredictable consequential costs due to violating setback requirements, that’s a decision everyone has to weigh for themselves.
None of the mentioned positions are included here. This only means that the costs for subdividing the land are covered by the municipality. All surveying costs related to construction, such as the site plan for the building permit / planning permission, rough staking, fine staking, and building measurement, must be paid by you.
You participated in @Evolith’s thread.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/Vermessung-bezahlen.25556/
It is common that the marking of boundaries only happens after the streets are completed.
What do you mean by site plan? The extract from the land register map or your site plan for the building permit with your project marked on it? Do you already have a building permit?Which surveying is the municipality referring to here?
Escroda schrieb:
The marking of the property boundary. ...and I specifically inquired about this again by phone. I was told that this should be done after the construction work is completed and that we should refer to the official site plan. However, the official site plan only shows two parcels. These extend across the entire development area. So what now? I certainly can’t have it staked out based only on the wooden stakes???
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