ᐅ Add a vestibule to an existing shell structure after the initial construction phase
Created on: 4 Sep 2017 21:59
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Nona4Hello everyone,
Our shell construction is almost finished; only the roof is still missing. I was already unhappy with our entrance area during the planning phase. It feels too tight to me, and the staircase is located directly next to the front door, which made me worry that dirt from outside would accumulate there, especially in winter. It’s also worth mentioning that we have two toddlers. Unfortunately, it wasn’t possible to solve this differently during planning, as otherwise one of the other rooms would have become too small. So we accepted the compromise of having a small hallway/entrance area. Expanding it or adding a separate vestibule wasn’t an option for us at that time because we were concerned it would exceed our budget. Since we are building with an architect, you can never be sure exactly how much everything will cost in the end. But you do hear everywhere that it usually ends up being more than planned.
Now, it turns out that for almost all trades, the costs have come in below what the architect originally estimated. So, of course, we’re quite annoyed that we didn’t plan the vestibule after all. We are now considering having a vestibule added retroactively since the shell is almost complete. My husband plans to talk to the architect in the coming days. My question is: Has anyone ever done something like this? Would it be a major issue, or can anyone estimate how high the costs might be? The vestibule would be only about 6 sqm (65 sq ft) in size.
Our shell construction is almost finished; only the roof is still missing. I was already unhappy with our entrance area during the planning phase. It feels too tight to me, and the staircase is located directly next to the front door, which made me worry that dirt from outside would accumulate there, especially in winter. It’s also worth mentioning that we have two toddlers. Unfortunately, it wasn’t possible to solve this differently during planning, as otherwise one of the other rooms would have become too small. So we accepted the compromise of having a small hallway/entrance area. Expanding it or adding a separate vestibule wasn’t an option for us at that time because we were concerned it would exceed our budget. Since we are building with an architect, you can never be sure exactly how much everything will cost in the end. But you do hear everywhere that it usually ends up being more than planned.
Now, it turns out that for almost all trades, the costs have come in below what the architect originally estimated. So, of course, we’re quite annoyed that we didn’t plan the vestibule after all. We are now considering having a vestibule added retroactively since the shell is almost complete. My husband plans to talk to the architect in the coming days. My question is: Has anyone ever done something like this? Would it be a major issue, or can anyone estimate how high the costs might be? The vestibule would be only about 6 sqm (65 sq ft) in size.
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Deliverer5 Sep 2017 10:37I have briefly highlighted the contradiction here:
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Nona4 schrieb:
... so far, almost all trades have come in under what the architect previously estimated.
vs.
Nona4 schrieb:
... now that the shell construction is almost completed...
Nona4 schrieb:
My question is whether anyone has done something like this before. Would it be a major problem, or can someone estimate how much this would cost? The vestibule would be only about 6 sqm (65 sq ft) in size. Throughout history, there have always been vestibules added to buildings after the main construction. What is unusual in this case is that it is planned to be added not years later to a finished house, but already during the shell construction phase. In any case, unlike with a simple canopy, a modification to the building permit/planning permission would be required here. If the vestibule is only to be added as an extension (not becoming part of the thermal envelope, for example), the effort involved is relatively low.
However, since your thread history does not include a floor plan, site plan (regarding the position on the property, building boundaries, etc.), or any elevations of your house, it is difficult to make further qualified statements.
And what my predecessor means to say is: even with the completion of the shell construction, the battle to stay within the overall budget is far from over.
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Yep, the timing of your considerations seems a bit odd. Or are you among those who have already selected EVERYTHING and contracted all trades, so you no longer expect any price changes?
We already have the screed installed, but several trades and design decisions are still not finalized or contracted. The painter (already working) will charge more than initially expected. With the plasterers, we also "spontaneously" increased the scope of work during construction. And now there’s more mosaic being considered for the tiling than originally planned (for a steep 400€/m² (about $400/ft²) – unfortunate…).
We already have the screed installed, but several trades and design decisions are still not finalized or contracted. The painter (already working) will charge more than initially expected. With the plasterers, we also "spontaneously" increased the scope of work during construction. And now there’s more mosaic being considered for the tiling than originally planned (for a steep 400€/m² (about $400/ft²) – unfortunate…).
This is a bit more developed than the shell structure you mentioned, which is almost finished. The comment by deliverer is justified.
An extension generally requires a new building permit / planning permission. This of course means submitting a building application, drawings, etc.
The roof will most likely also need to be modified.
In this respect...
An extension generally requires a new building permit / planning permission. This of course means submitting a building application, drawings, etc.
The roof will most likely also need to be modified.
In this respect...
ypg schrieb:
An extension generally requires a new building permit (planning permission). Of course, this includes the building application, drawings, etc. For the shell construction, it is probably more of a modification, so a design review should be sufficient, along with the corresponding amendment.
ypg schrieb:
Then the roof probably also needs to be adjusted? Entry vestibules are usually not multi-story.
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