Hi, we had our electrical consultation on Friday to discuss where everything should be installed.
Attached is a plan showing how we planned it with the electrician. Almost all our wishes were included; there were hardly any suggestions for improvement.
In the pictures, the power outlets are marked in orange.
For internet/telephone, we only have 2 lines. He wanted to charge 108€ per outlet for more lines, so we are now doing it ourselves, meaning there will be an internet connection in every room.
Living room: 4-2-4 power outlets plus TV, and 2 plus another 2 outlets.
Hallway: 1 outlet at the front and at the back, plus a telephone connection.
Utility room: besides the appliances themselves, for washing machine and dryer there are 2 individual outlets.
Guest WC: 1 outlet.
Home office: 3 power outlets plus telephone and TV, and 2 times 1 outlet.
Upstairs:
Children’s rooms: 3 outlets plus TV and 2 times 2 outlets.
Dressing room: 2 individual outlets in the middle at the top (for Ikea Pax light). Also, the light switch for the bedroom is in the dressing room... is that a good setup? (Red dot-arrow)
Bedroom: 3 outlets plus TV, and next to the bed, 3 outlets on each side (would it be better to have these lower or slightly higher so they are above the bedside table? Since baby monitors, phones, etc. are plugged in daily.)
Storage room: 2 individual outlets.
Bathroom: 2 outlets on the left side of the vanity wall. Additionally, a ceiling light in front of the shower. Are there any suggestions for improvement here? Should one outlet be left there with a spotlight that shines into the shower, or use that one outlet to install LED spots in the ceiling?
Hallway at the back: 1 outlet.
So, now the pictures follow, which hopefully are clear.
I would appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvements.
Attached is a plan showing how we planned it with the electrician. Almost all our wishes were included; there were hardly any suggestions for improvement.
In the pictures, the power outlets are marked in orange.
For internet/telephone, we only have 2 lines. He wanted to charge 108€ per outlet for more lines, so we are now doing it ourselves, meaning there will be an internet connection in every room.
Living room: 4-2-4 power outlets plus TV, and 2 plus another 2 outlets.
Hallway: 1 outlet at the front and at the back, plus a telephone connection.
Utility room: besides the appliances themselves, for washing machine and dryer there are 2 individual outlets.
Guest WC: 1 outlet.
Home office: 3 power outlets plus telephone and TV, and 2 times 1 outlet.
Upstairs:
Children’s rooms: 3 outlets plus TV and 2 times 2 outlets.
Dressing room: 2 individual outlets in the middle at the top (for Ikea Pax light). Also, the light switch for the bedroom is in the dressing room... is that a good setup? (Red dot-arrow)
Bedroom: 3 outlets plus TV, and next to the bed, 3 outlets on each side (would it be better to have these lower or slightly higher so they are above the bedside table? Since baby monitors, phones, etc. are plugged in daily.)
Storage room: 2 individual outlets.
Bathroom: 2 outlets on the left side of the vanity wall. Additionally, a ceiling light in front of the shower. Are there any suggestions for improvement here? Should one outlet be left there with a spotlight that shines into the shower, or use that one outlet to install LED spots in the ceiling?
Hallway at the back: 1 outlet.
So, now the pictures follow, which hopefully are clear.
I would appreciate your feedback and suggestions for improvements.
It’s not just about charging the phone… yes, it stays on the table next to the bed at night and charges.
It’s also about things like the baby monitor, which my wife plugs in and unplugs every morning and evening.
Sure, it’s probably just a matter of getting used to it, but she says she would prefer it to be upstairs.
The thing is, you need to know which bedside table will be bought for that, and we don’t know yet.
Another question about the stair step lighting. The entire electrical installation will be done next week, but right now there is only a construction staircase.
Unfortunately, I don’t know exactly how the staircase will be laid out, so it will be difficult to provide a connection for every second step, right?
And again about the network cables.
I tried to read up a bit now. Networking has always been something I don’t fully understand, even though I’m interested.
Anyway, how would it look?
I run four of those cables and connect them in-wall with a socket? The other end of the four cable strands is routed to the utility room, and then?
If I have 20 sockets in the house and all 20 cables run back to the utility room, where do I connect those 20 cables? My router doesn’t have that many free ports ^^.
Or can I twist several cables together, for example all from one room, and connect them to a single port on the router?
It’s also about things like the baby monitor, which my wife plugs in and unplugs every morning and evening.
Sure, it’s probably just a matter of getting used to it, but she says she would prefer it to be upstairs.
The thing is, you need to know which bedside table will be bought for that, and we don’t know yet.
Another question about the stair step lighting. The entire electrical installation will be done next week, but right now there is only a construction staircase.
Unfortunately, I don’t know exactly how the staircase will be laid out, so it will be difficult to provide a connection for every second step, right?
And again about the network cables.
I tried to read up a bit now. Networking has always been something I don’t fully understand, even though I’m interested.
Anyway, how would it look?
I run four of those cables and connect them in-wall with a socket? The other end of the four cable strands is routed to the utility room, and then?
If I have 20 sockets in the house and all 20 cables run back to the utility room, where do I connect those 20 cables? My router doesn’t have that many free ports ^^.
Or can I twist several cables together, for example all from one room, and connect them to a single port on the router?
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The four cables connect to two separate outlets, each with two ports. In the utility room, all cables are terminated on a so-called patch panel (a type of large "network socket") and from there connected to a switch. From the switch, one cable goes to your router, providing internet to your entire house. [emoji6]
The system is actually very straightforward. Just do a quick search online, and you’ll easily understand it with the help of a few pictures.
The four cables connect to two separate outlets, each with two ports. In the utility room, all cables are terminated on a so-called patch panel (a type of large "network socket") and from there connected to a switch. From the switch, one cable goes to your router, providing internet to your entire house. [emoji6]
The system is actually very straightforward. Just do a quick search online, and you’ll easily understand it with the help of a few pictures.
ypg schrieb:
And since everyone thinks that way and every little bit adds up, active nuclear power plants still exist.
Come on, this isn’t about individual household costs; it’s about preserving a quality and livable Earth.
The increase in renewable energy sources isn’t thanks to you, but to your parents’ generation. They are probably not pleased with this selfish attitude towards future generations.Wow, you’re really bringing out the heavy artillery here.
The standby electricity consumption of your entire household probably wouldn't even be enough to power a standard incandescent bulb. It’s simply irrelevant compared to the energy we use daily in other ways. Maybe consider that before dismissing people like this. You, a self-proclaimed fan of full baths who dries long hair with a hairdryer.
Alex85 schrieb:
Oh dear, you’re really bringing out the heavy artillery.
The standby power consumption of your entire household probably isn’t even enough to keep a regular light bulb running. It’s simply irrelevant compared to the energy consumption we cause daily otherwise. Maybe think about that before dismissing people like that. You, a self-proclaimed lover of full baths who blow-dries her long hair.You’re confusing me: I don’t blow-dry! And I only take baths with two people.
And I no longer have any standby power here.
And it really is as I say: it took 20 years to get to where we are now. You weren’t even aware of it. When we were demonstrating and taking action, many of you didn’t exist yet.
For you, it’s now second nature to consume without thinking.
But that’s what happens: you show your children that electricity just comes from the socket. Humility only comes when another major disaster happens or your descendants suffer a life-threatening illness for similar reasons.
But you haven’t experienced that yourselves yet, so it gets downplayed.
You always have to be personally affected first or have grown up with this growing awareness. So be it.
Edit: it’s not about electricity consumption itself. I use electricity too. It’s about the attitude of downplaying unnecessary power use just because it no longer costs anything.
Oh, by the way, something just came to mind—I asked the electrician if he could protect the outlets and lights separately. He said that would be a lot more work and would cost a ton.
I would like to have outlets and lights on separate circuits. Ideally, each room would be on its own circuit, but he’s combining, for example, the living room and dining room on one breaker, and the utility room and guest bathroom together, as well as, I think, the hallway and office.
Can you add another breaker and separate the wiring yourself afterward, once he’s gone? In theory, would it just be a matter of switching a cable? Both neighbors who are completely self-building are electricians and would help me.
I would like to have outlets and lights on separate circuits. Ideally, each room would be on its own circuit, but he’s combining, for example, the living room and dining room on one breaker, and the utility room and guest bathroom together, as well as, I think, the hallway and office.
Can you add another breaker and separate the wiring yourself afterward, once he’s gone? In theory, would it just be a matter of switching a cable? Both neighbors who are completely self-building are electricians and would help me.
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