ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house

Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!

We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.

Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories

Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)

Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement

Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)

Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)

Office: family use

Guests per year: 1

Open or closed architecture: closed

Traditional or modern design: modern

Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island

Number of dining seats – 6

Fireplace – yes

Music/stereo wall – TV wall

Balcony, roof terrace – balcony

Garage, carport – large garage

Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.

House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)

What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.

What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.

Laundry room as described.

Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.

Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)

Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros

Preferred heating technology:
Gas

If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?

- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation

- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)

Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.

What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.

Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?

In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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matte
24 Aug 2017 20:57
To be honest, I just skim through the thread now, but I still don’t understand why you wouldn’t consider scaling back on the floor area a bit. This is still the number one way to optimize costs...

There are plenty of expenses ahead where you’ll need extra money, especially for nice features that you haven’t even thought of yet.

Completely aside from that, I also don’t see the “wow” factor in relation to the costs, which I would expect.

No offense, but to me, it all seems very compromised. So why not start over? Is it because time is running out?
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R.Hotzenplotz
24 Aug 2017 21:02
matte1987 schrieb:
To be honest, I’m just skimming through the thread now, but I simply don’t understand why you wouldn’t try to slow down a bit in terms of the overall area. That’s still the number one way to optimize costs...

We didn’t see any room for adjustment given all the requirements and were just happy that, after months of planning, everything finally seemed to fit.
matte1987 schrieb:
There’s still plenty ahead where you’ll need additional money, especially for nice things you probably haven’t even considered yet.

What do you have in mind?
matte1987 schrieb:
Regardless, I’m also missing the ‘wow’ factor that I would expect considering the costs.

I gave up on the wow factor; that attempt failed miserably, especially when structural risks came up. You could follow that here.
matte1987 schrieb:
No offense, but to me this all feels very compromised—so why not start over? Is it because you’re running out of time?

We’ve gone through at least 10 planning versions with the company already. At some point, it has to stop. I don’t see a basis for commissioning anything else. Simply building the same thing but smaller isn’t the solution...

We’re not missing an additional €100,000 (euros) we still need to find. For that reason, I’m very much in favor of moving forward now with this design, which feels very right to us.

Regarding understanding the price, I plan to see a building advisor in the next few days—mainly to get some overall guidance on the whole matter...

However, it seems reasonable to me. Other providers and even independent architects have given me similar estimates for comparable projects.
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Curly
24 Aug 2017 22:11
I haven’t read the entire thread, so I’m not sure if this has been mentioned before, but doesn’t the entrance to the living room bother you? When you open the door, there is another door directly in front of you. The house is so spacious, and then there is such a cramped access to the living room?

Best regards,
Sabine
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R.Hotzenplotz
24 Aug 2017 22:18
Curly schrieb:
I haven’t read the entire thread, so I don’t know if this has been mentioned before, but doesn’t the entrance to the living room bother you?

No, it doesn’t bother us. We deliberately chose a more enclosed floor plan and don’t want an open “portal” from the hallway into the living room or something like that. Like any other room, the living room is supposed to have a standard door that can be closed.
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R.Hotzenplotz
24 Aug 2017 22:32
@matte1987

Maybe we will remove the corner by the kitchen that was added to include the corner window. The kitchen will lose some space and the front appearance will change, but that could save about €10,000.

See attachment.

House floor plan: open living room with dining table, kitchen, office, hallway, wardrobe, shower.
11ant24 Aug 2017 23:37
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
We explicitly chose a more closed floor plan and do not want an open "portal" from the hallway into the living room

Another point like this, which seemed different for a long time.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/