ᐅ Preliminary floor plan design for a 220 m² single-family house
Created on: 20 Jun 2017 22:41
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R.Hotzenplotz
Hello!
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
We have already gone through several plans with our architect and I think we are almost there, about to start the detailed planning phase. Before that, I’m looking forward to getting feedback from other users.
Development plan/restrictions: §34 – two full stories
Plot size: 1,085m² (1,1679 yd²)
Basement, floors – 2 full stories plus partial basement
Number of people, ages – 3 people (37, 34, 1, second child planned)
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – the requirement was that bedrooms and the study should be about 17m² (183 ft²) each; the entire house should be approximately 220m² (2,368 ft²)
Office: family use
Guests per year: 1
Open or closed architecture: closed
Traditional or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island – no open kitchen, but yes to a kitchen island
Number of dining seats – 6
Fireplace – yes
Music/stereo wall – TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace – balcony
Garage, carport – large garage
Additional wishes/special features/daily routines, preferably with reasons why certain things should or should not be included – everyone should be able to sleep as undisturbed as possible in their bedrooms, even if other family members are awake. The husband is sometimes up as early as 4 a.m. Otherwise, watching TV in the evening should be possible without disturbing those sleeping upstairs.
House design
Who created the design:
- Architect (freelancer for a general contractor)
What do you like most? Why?
The upper floor with well-sized rooms and the location of the rooms exactly where they should be (only the washroom area we would still like to move to the outer right corner so that you don’t have to pass it every time you use the toilet). On the ground floor, the access through an airlock, the kitchen, and the dining area with the study next to it are especially liked.
Also appreciated is that after adjustments, the study now faces the garden instead of the street.
What don’t you like? Why?
We originally wanted the distance from wall to wall where the sofa and TV stand is to be about 6.40m (21 ft) (large screen & surround system), but so far only 5.69m (19 ft) has been realized.
Laundry room as described.
Kitchen larger in square meters than needed; the approx. 3m² (32 ft²) could theoretically be used well in the living area.
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
720,000 euros (including construction incidentals)
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment:
800,000 euros
Preferred heating technology:
Gas
If you have to give up on something, which details/features can you do without?
- Can do without:
Technical systems like controlled residential ventilation
- Cannot do without:
Space (except for the kitchen)
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Is this a standard design from the planner?
The architect has largely implemented our wishes; the only issue is the living room situation.
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
Patient, quick to implement, has already gotten to know us well.
No negative points.
Do you notice any other points that might not fit or that we should consider, which we might have overlooked?
In the basement, the room currently labeled as home cinema might possibly be used as one medium- to long-term. For the foreseeable future, it will be a storage room.
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R.Hotzenplotz21 Aug 2017 19:23The first set of images shows how we are currently renting our living space (on the first floor and the split-level basement). Just to give an idea...
I have now taken new photos of the other two houses in the neighborhood as announced. Personally, I could live very well with a single-sloped roof. In our case, the higher side would face the garden. Although I’m not sure if the current design proposal is even suitable for a single-sloped roof.
I also photographed a classic Bauhaus-style house, which I find quite appealing with its roof overhang. It adds a subtle openness and is structurally solid. Unfortunately, something like that won’t work well with brick cladding, only with painted white surfaces... well, that can always be repainted every few years.
My wife was with me at the time. Unfortunately, she doesn’t like either option. She would be willing to accept it, but we both want to be happy living in our house for decades...
I could live comfortably with any of the options – single-sloped roof, hipped roof, or flat roof with an overhang. The coolest in my opinion is the single-sloped roof as shown in the photo! Really fantastic! As mentioned above, it would be interesting to see if it would actually fit with the building currently planned.
The Bauhaus-style house stands out mainly because of the external blinds. Without the blinds, it would be much less interesting.





I have now taken new photos of the other two houses in the neighborhood as announced. Personally, I could live very well with a single-sloped roof. In our case, the higher side would face the garden. Although I’m not sure if the current design proposal is even suitable for a single-sloped roof.
I also photographed a classic Bauhaus-style house, which I find quite appealing with its roof overhang. It adds a subtle openness and is structurally solid. Unfortunately, something like that won’t work well with brick cladding, only with painted white surfaces... well, that can always be repainted every few years.
My wife was with me at the time. Unfortunately, she doesn’t like either option. She would be willing to accept it, but we both want to be happy living in our house for decades...
I could live comfortably with any of the options – single-sloped roof, hipped roof, or flat roof with an overhang. The coolest in my opinion is the single-sloped roof as shown in the photo! Really fantastic! As mentioned above, it would be interesting to see if it would actually fit with the building currently planned.
The Bauhaus-style house stands out mainly because of the external blinds. Without the blinds, it would be much less interesting.
R
R.Hotzenplotz21 Aug 2017 19:5511ant schrieb:
What do you mean by "obtuse angle" – the one at the roof apex? I was referring to the shallower roof pitch.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The first illustration shows how we are currently renting (on the first floor and in the mezzanine). From the same perspective but behind the wall, I would like to see that sometime.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Personally, I could easily live with a mono-pitched roof. In our case, the higher side would face the garden. Although I’m not sure if the current design proposal is even suitable for a mono-pitched roof. So far, all suggestions. The conversion to that (with an open underside) could be done quickly; with the hipped roof (with attic), it wouldn’t.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The coolest thing, I think, is a mono-pitched roof like in the photo! Really great! I like it too. Also with a moderate slope.
The barrel roof looks familiar to me. Is that the same walking area as in the picture with the two pyramid roofs, where there were also some like those in the background?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I also photographed a classic Bauhaus house that I actually find quite good with an overhanging roof. The one on the left with the continuous roof terrace, whose corner is hidden behind the small tree?
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
I find the Bauhaus-style house stands out mainly because of the external venetian blinds. So the one on the right in the same picture? — I would have thought you’d only like the left one, since the right one doesn’t have that overhanging capping plate.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
Without external venetian blinds, it would be significantly less interesting. Without external venetian blinds, it would be much less Meiermüllerschulze 2015.
Have I understood your terminology correctly now: by “classic Bauhaus” you mean when it’s just white and the roof sits on top like a granite slab on a grave, and “Bauhaus style” when the roof is “not visible” and the facade also includes gray?
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R.Hotzenplotz21 Aug 2017 20:4711ant schrieb:
I’d like to see it from the same perspective but from behind the wall.Here you go!
11ant schrieb:
That barrel roof looks familiar—is it the same neighborhood as in the photo with the two pyramid roofs? There were similar ones in the background, right?Exactly. All the houses shown here are from the same neighborhood.
11ant schrieb:
You mean the one on the right in the same photo? I thought you’d only like the one on the left since the right one doesn’t have that overhanging roof edge with cover plates.The one on the left is somewhat like where we live now. But that house has two full stories plus a recessed top floor, so it doesn’t fit our concept. I was actually referring to the other house.
That house has no roof overhang. But after taking a closer look earlier, I imagined it with a roof overhang and also realized that with the visual breathing space it already has, it’s actually not bad—even without an overhang. I think a house like that should only have a plaster finish; I don’t find brick or partial brick cladding would suit it well.
11ant schrieb:
Without external venetian blinds, it would look much less like a 2015 Meiermüllerschulze design.You mean it would look better or at least more distinctive with traditional roller shutters?
Looking closely at this house makes me conclude that the design we have already approved but can’t build yet wouldn’t have fit well at all. Too many corners and edges, making it visually too busy and also more complex and costly to construct.
11ant schrieb:
Did I understand your terminology correctly: your "classic Bauhaus" means simply a white box with a flat roof sitting like a granite slab on a grave, and "Bauhaus style" means the roof isn’t visible and the facade includes gray tones?I think sometimes my statements shouldn’t be taken too literally. I didn’t subdivide my thoughts that finely. To me, classic Bauhaus just means that cubic look… mostly medium to large windows… understatement… usually white plaster… but let’s just forget about distinguishing between Bauhaus style and classic Bauhaus style. I honestly wasn’t making that distinction in my comments, so let’s just drop it.
However, I find it hard to imagine the Bauhaus style—especially the house in the photo—without external venetian blinds. I think they really complement the overall look. We have roller shutters at our place… and I don’t think that’s so bad… why? I don’t know! Maybe because of the 2.5 stories or the different window shapes. If I had that white plaster and was building a Bauhaus, then definitely with external venetian blinds!
What a day… now I’m seriously reconsidering the roof… it’s already hard enough to come to the “right” conclusion alone. Agreeing with my partner is intense, I tell you.
My wife remains firmly in favor of a hip roof. If I don’t want that, she’d accept a flat roof as a compromise (she doesn’t mind if it has an overhang or not), but she cannot imagine a shed roof at all… although she said that before we start over again, she’d even accept that if we keep the current floor plan. But that’s something we definitely need to decide together… I don’t want to corner her too much and have it held against me later.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
The house has no roof overhang. But when I looked at it more closely earlier, I imagined it both with a roof overhang and also calmly realized that the house, with the current design features, isn’t bad at all—even without a roof overhang. I think a house like this should only have a plastered finish; I don’t think brick or partial brick would work as well. Where it has gray plastered surfaces, it could also have gray or violet-gray toned brick surfaces.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
However, I can hardly imagine the Bauhaus style—especially the photographed house—without external venetian blinds. I think they go really well together. We have roller shutters at our place.... The functions are quite different, so I wouldn’t really compare them. Roller shutters are okay in my opinion, just not if they are standard light gray on a white and anthracite house.
R.Hotzenplotz schrieb:
She said, before we start all over again, she would even accept that if the current floor plan remains. A clear sign to take a break for now.
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