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Matthew0318 Aug 2017 18:42Hello forum and best regards from Baden-Württemberg!
I have been following this forum for months and have already gained many helpful ideas and tips. Many thanks in advance to everyone who is so active here!
Now about us: we live in a town of 3,000 inhabitants between Stuttgart and Lake Constance at the edge of the Black Forest, and this is exactly where we want and will build our house. We are 35 and 27 years old, without children, which will not change for at least another 2-3 years...
As the thread title suggests, we are already quite far along with the floor plan and hope to get some final suggestions or maybe warnings from you about things we might have overlooked or could improve.
Here is a brief questionnaire:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 726m2 (7,810 sq ft)
Slope: no
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: surrounding development, minimum setback 2.5m (8 ft 2 in)
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: cube, flat roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full stories each 2.75m (9 ft)
Number of residents, age: two persons, 35 + 27 years
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: see floor plan
Office: family use or home office? no need
Overnight guests per year: 1-2
open or closed architecture: [I]rather open
traditional or modern construction: modern
open kitchen, cooking island: open, peninsula
Number of dining seats: 2-6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included: 7x4m (23 x 13 ft) pool, L-shaped terrace, garden shed, electric gate, lots of privacy screening, separate parents’ bathroom
House design
Who created the design: [I]initial draft by ourselves, current plan together with contractor
What do you particularly like? Why? layout of the parents' bedroom, open and bright living area
What do you dislike? Why? placement of the TV in the living area is not ideal anywhere
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 270,000 (excl. electrical work)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump, underfloor heating
As mentioned, I am grateful for any feedback, positive or negative.
If anything is unclear, just ask... thanks in advance!
I have been following this forum for months and have already gained many helpful ideas and tips. Many thanks in advance to everyone who is so active here!
Now about us: we live in a town of 3,000 inhabitants between Stuttgart and Lake Constance at the edge of the Black Forest, and this is exactly where we want and will build our house. We are 35 and 27 years old, without children, which will not change for at least another 2-3 years...
As the thread title suggests, we are already quite far along with the floor plan and hope to get some final suggestions or maybe warnings from you about things we might have overlooked or could improve.
Here is a brief questionnaire:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 726m2 (7,810 sq ft)
Slope: no
Building envelope, building line, and boundaries: surrounding development, minimum setback 2.5m (8 ft 2 in)
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: cube, flat roof
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full stories each 2.75m (9 ft)
Number of residents, age: two persons, 35 + 27 years
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: see floor plan
Office: family use or home office? no need
Overnight guests per year: 1-2
open or closed architecture: [I]rather open
traditional or modern construction: modern
open kitchen, cooking island: open, peninsula
Number of dining seats: 2-6
Fireplace: yes
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, also reasons why certain things should or should not be included: 7x4m (23 x 13 ft) pool, L-shaped terrace, garden shed, electric gate, lots of privacy screening, separate parents’ bathroom
House design
Who created the design: [I]initial draft by ourselves, current plan together with contractor
What do you particularly like? Why? layout of the parents' bedroom, open and bright living area
What do you dislike? Why? placement of the TV in the living area is not ideal anywhere
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 270,000 (excl. electrical work)
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump, underfloor heating
As mentioned, I am grateful for any feedback, positive or negative.
If anything is unclear, just ask... thanks in advance!
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Matthew0318 Aug 2017 22:22Good point, which I passed directly on to the lady of the house. According to her, she wants this in order to install shelves all around the pantry. After discussion, however, the version without this partition wall is now an option...
What can I say:
I’m starting to get tired of seeing these houses, but I want to contribute neutrally regarding the floor plan.
First of all, congratulations on the pool design—that’s great, and I’d love to have one too!
Regarding the floor plan itself:
From the exterior view and the given specifications, I expect more than what the entrance hall offers. I would expect a practical cloakroom solution rather than a staircase that feels restrained.
The slanted wall doesn’t fit at all.
The kitchen island should be at least 90 cm (35 inches) deep; otherwise, it looks too small, and the stove will cause greasy problems.
I really don’t like that the dining table extends into the relaxation area. Where would the TV unit be placed?
I would design the complex to be longer and narrower.
Upstairs, in the master area, square meters are wasted, while the closet space is rather sparse. This also supports the idea of designing everything on the ground floor to be narrower but longer.
I won’t go into details intentionally, as I believe the basics still need to be developed.
Regards, Yvonne
I’m starting to get tired of seeing these houses, but I want to contribute neutrally regarding the floor plan.
First of all, congratulations on the pool design—that’s great, and I’d love to have one too!
Regarding the floor plan itself:
From the exterior view and the given specifications, I expect more than what the entrance hall offers. I would expect a practical cloakroom solution rather than a staircase that feels restrained.
The slanted wall doesn’t fit at all.
The kitchen island should be at least 90 cm (35 inches) deep; otherwise, it looks too small, and the stove will cause greasy problems.
I really don’t like that the dining table extends into the relaxation area. Where would the TV unit be placed?
I would design the complex to be longer and narrower.
Upstairs, in the master area, square meters are wasted, while the closet space is rather sparse. This also supports the idea of designing everything on the ground floor to be narrower but longer.
I won’t go into details intentionally, as I believe the basics still need to be developed.
Regards, Yvonne
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Matthew0319 Aug 2017 09:56Thank you for the quick response and the feedback!
I don’t quite understand—what do you mean by the last part of the sentence?
I’m open to reconsidering the slanted wall—thanks for pointing that out.
The island will be 1 meter deep (40 inches), sorry, I forgot to mention that.
Yes, the dining table is also an issue for me! The sofa is misplaced in the draft; it should be placed against the living room wall at the top of the plan, so you’re facing the window front. The TV is planned to be mounted on the left wall next to the corner glazing.
Of course, I’m all the more interested in those basics. Maybe you’ll reconsider and go into detail after all—I’d really appreciate that.
But thanks already all the same!
ypg schrieb:
I expect a nice cloakroom solution and not a staircase that behaves oddly.
I don’t quite understand—what do you mean by the last part of the sentence?
ypg schrieb:
The slanted wall just doesn’t fit at all.
The kitchen island should be at least 90cm deep (35 inches), otherwise it looks too small and the stove will cause greasy problems.
I’m open to reconsidering the slanted wall—thanks for pointing that out.
The island will be 1 meter deep (40 inches), sorry, I forgot to mention that.
ypg schrieb:
I really don’t like that the dining table extends into the relaxation area. Where would the TV unit be placed?
Yes, the dining table is also an issue for me! The sofa is misplaced in the draft; it should be placed against the living room wall at the top of the plan, so you’re facing the window front. The TV is planned to be mounted on the left wall next to the corner glazing.
ypg schrieb:
I won’t go into detail intentionally because I think the basics still need to be worked out.
Of course, I’m all the more interested in those basics. Maybe you’ll reconsider and go into detail after all—I’d really appreciate that.
But thanks already all the same!
I find the design acceptable. Visually, it bothers me that while the house is a contemporary flat-roof design, the carport looks like it belongs to a flat-roof house from the 1980s. Its exposed sand-lime brick wall doesn’t match the plastered exterior of the house, the parapet does not fit with the modern roof edge, and the angled front edge is the most disturbing element. Likewise, the random assortment of window formats on the street-facing side doesn’t harmonize with the pleasantly structured garden-facing side. The 45° corner around the storage room—which I agree should have the partition wall removed—is also very 1980s style. The chimney feels that way as well.
Conceptually, I think the house works well, the master suite is well designed, and I especially like the window layout surrounding the sofa area.
What I dislike is the wall-mounted nonsense box currently hyped as the ultimate heating technology—but when I was young, people also wanted to consider glass blocks as stylish.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Conceptually, I think the house works well, the master suite is well designed, and I especially like the window layout surrounding the sofa area.
What I dislike is the wall-mounted nonsense box currently hyped as the ultimate heating technology—but when I was young, people also wanted to consider glass blocks as stylish.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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