ᐅ Fiber to the Home (FTTH) – Wi-Fi Router, Landline Phone, Computer
Created on: 16 Aug 2017 12:40
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Nordlys
Hello, technicians in the forum.
I have the feeling that my electrician is not in control of the situation.
We have FTTH, fiber optic all the way to the house. Since yesterday, there has been a gray box installed with two tubes of fiber optic cables visible. I assumed this was the telecom provider’s equipment. I then watched their FTTH video. They will install a fiber optic modem next to the box. Correct? So far, so good. From the modem, it is then the electrician’s responsibility to continue the wiring. A cable runs inside the walls to my office, where a Wi-Fi router, landline phone, and PC are supposed to be set up. They installed a telephone socket in the wall, a TAE connector. But in the telecom provider’s help video, there is no telephone socket, only a network cable outlet, into which the router is plugged. Then the phone is connected to the router. Is that correct? If so, he still needs to change it.
Please clarify. Karsten
I have the feeling that my electrician is not in control of the situation.
We have FTTH, fiber optic all the way to the house. Since yesterday, there has been a gray box installed with two tubes of fiber optic cables visible. I assumed this was the telecom provider’s equipment. I then watched their FTTH video. They will install a fiber optic modem next to the box. Correct? So far, so good. From the modem, it is then the electrician’s responsibility to continue the wiring. A cable runs inside the walls to my office, where a Wi-Fi router, landline phone, and PC are supposed to be set up. They installed a telephone socket in the wall, a TAE connector. But in the telecom provider’s help video, there is no telephone socket, only a network cable outlet, into which the router is plugged. Then the phone is connected to the router. Is that correct? If so, he still needs to change it.
Please clarify. Karsten
Nordlys schrieb:
So he plugs his telephone cable into the router, and I just plug my old simple Panasonic phone as usual into the wall socket in the office? Yes, that should probably work.
You can forget about the telephone wire, that’s rubbish.
Saved 40€ too much
How many wires does the cable have?
If the WiFi doesn’t cover the whole house, you could still install an access point in the attic. Surface-mounted wiring in the utility room shouldn’t be much of a problem.[/QUOTE]
Nordlys schrieb:
Good. But what happens if he just replaces the TAE part with another socket, but keeps the cable that’s currently installed? We are going for a DSL 50,000 contract. Should I then downgrade to 16? Thousand?
How many wires does the cable have?
Nordlys schrieb:
WiFi router in the utility room right next to the modem should work because the house is small. Just Ytong. No concrete ceiling to get through. That would be plan B. Then he plugs his phone cable into the router and I just plug my old simple Panasonic into the wall in the office as usual?
If the WiFi doesn’t cover the whole house, you could still install an access point in the attic. Surface-mounted wiring in the utility room shouldn’t be much of a problem.[/QUOTE]
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Caspar202016 Aug 2017 13:17Nordlys schrieb:
What happens then, because pulling out the cable is no longer possible. KarstenPoor workmanship. ARdT means to install multimedia and network/telephone cables inside empty conduits.
A CAT cable is shielded quite differently, and especially the pairs of wires are twisted.
Nordlys schrieb:
We will take a DSL 50,000 contract. Should I then downgrade to 16? Thousand?What’s on the outside doesn’t matter (meaning what is between the exchange and your modem). The modem and Wi-Fi router communicate anyway at 100 Mbit/s or 1 Gbit/s.
That can work, but it often goes wrong. Or it just becomes unstable under load and you end up frustrated with the telecom service.
Nordlys schrieb:
Plan B would be that he plugs his telephone cable into the router and I just plug my old basic Panasonic phone into the wall in the office as usual?That would work.
Too much fuss. I don’t think this has anything to do with saving money. It’s just their first FTTH installation ever. We’re in Schleswig-Holstein. Here, often the best you get is DSL 2000 max. That’s the reality.
Thanks anyway. Now I have a basis to talk with him.
Best option: network socket plus new cable! Karl, is that possible?
If not, we’ll try Wi-Fi from the utility room.
If that’s too weak, you place an access point on the floor in the middle. I’ll buy it from you, you provide the cable.
Or a better idea?
That’s how I’ll make my argument. Karsten
Thanks anyway. Now I have a basis to talk with him.
Best option: network socket plus new cable! Karl, is that possible?
If not, we’ll try Wi-Fi from the utility room.
If that’s too weak, you place an access point on the floor in the middle. I’ll buy it from you, you provide the cable.
Or a better idea?
That’s how I’ll make my argument. Karsten
Well, I would have had a network outlet installed regardless of the type of DSL. The difference probably wouldn’t even be 40€.
Regarding the solution
There shouldn’t have been very long phone lines that also supported 100 Mbit. The only option is to test it out. 100 Mbit would be more than enough since the bottleneck would then be the DSL connection.
If the installers were smart, they might have also pulled a network cable and connected a TAE socket to it. That’s why I’m asking how many wires the cable has.
Regarding the solution
There shouldn’t have been very long phone lines that also supported 100 Mbit. The only option is to test it out. 100 Mbit would be more than enough since the bottleneck would then be the DSL connection.
If the installers were smart, they might have also pulled a network cable and connected a TAE socket to it. That’s why I’m asking how many wires the cable has.
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Caspar202016 Aug 2017 13:45Maybe you’re lucky that Karl installed a CAT cable to the "first outlet," but that would be quite a miracle. (Telephone also runs over CAT), otherwise, that would be 50-60 cents per meter of wasted money.
The number of cores alone is not very telling or fully conclusive. There are plenty of telephone cables with 4 pairs of cores; it should definitely be CAT quality with twisted pairs. If you’re only looking sadly at 2 pairs, the case is "crystal clear."
There are many cases where it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. So I wouldn’t rely on it just because it works once. Crosstalk is often only visible under "load." Of course, you could measure with a CAT analyzer, but....
Musketier schrieb:
Network cable installed, and a TAE socket connected to it. That’s why I’m asking how many cores the cable has.
The number of cores alone is not very telling or fully conclusive. There are plenty of telephone cables with 4 pairs of cores; it should definitely be CAT quality with twisted pairs. If you’re only looking sadly at 2 pairs, the case is "crystal clear."
Musketier schrieb:
There shouldn’t have been too many telephone lines that also transmitted 100 Mbit. The only way to find out is to test. 100 Mbit would be sufficient anyway, since the bottleneck will be the DSL again.
There are many cases where it sometimes works and sometimes doesn’t. So I wouldn’t rely on it just because it works once. Crosstalk is often only visible under "load." Of course, you could measure with a CAT analyzer, but....
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