ᐅ Floor plan design for a hillside house with 5 children's bedrooms

Created on: 17 Jun 2017 12:31
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Arifas
Dear fellow contributors,
I’m sharing our first attempt at the floor plan. Unfortunately, I can’t fill out the list because copying it over on my phone doesn’t work properly, sorry.

Key data:
5 children between 0 and 11 years old
2 adults in their mid-thirties
Plot of about 900 sqm (9700 sq ft), facing north
Building window edge on the street side: 17.35 m (57 ft)
Sloped site; within the building window, the ground rises about 2 m (7 ft) over 10 m (33 ft) from front to back

We want 5 small children’s bedrooms, a slightly larger office for working from home, a master bedroom, three showers, three toilets, a bathtub, and access to the garden through the living room on the upper floor. One wall in the children’s rooms should be removable later.
The attic is walkable.

We are allowed to build 2 full stories, with a ridge height of about 12 m (39 ft) and an eave height of 11.6 m (38 ft).
We would prefer a hip roof.
The current drawing is 9.5 by 11 m (31 by 36 ft), but we would like to have around 195 to 205 sqm (2100 to 2200 sq ft) of living space later; garage or storage will be added.
The back wall of the house is embedded up to about 2 m (7 ft) into the slope.

I will try to attach a rough overview of the plot.

Handgezeichnetes Grundriss-Skizzenblatt mit Raumaufteilung und Beschriftungen

OG-Grundriss: Terrasse oben, Sofa, Küche, Essen, Kamin, HWR, Bad, Kind 4, Treppe
11ant13 Aug 2017 14:51
kbt09 schrieb:
I gave it a try as well.

Well, “gave it a try” is definitely an understatement. I’d call it a big thumbs up.

Where does the 33.5 cm (13.2 inches) wall thickness come from: 17.5 + 2x 8 insulation – didn’t we agree on a monolithic 30 cm (12 inches)?

I assume the dashed area in the attic is the 2 m (6.6 feet) zone? – that would explain why the latest contractor’s design still includes a retractable staircase, since extending the regular staircase upward would place the exit in a less favorable spot.
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kbt09
13 Aug 2017 15:14
I admit... typo... I actually meant to enter 36.5 and then overlooked it. It was too much effort to correct it.

Yes, one 2-meter and one 1-meter line. I used the 1-meter (3 feet) line to set the knee wall.

Since storage space on the basement/ground floor level is really quite limited, I would definitely have the regular stairs lead to the attic, but with a door in front of them. That’s why I included the sections to show how it would look. Also, for the attic, I had to allow about 50 cm (20 inches) of knee wall height for the exterior walls; otherwise, with a 22° roof pitch, usable space is very limited.
Arifas13 Aug 2017 15:20
Wow kbt!!!
I think I will also print this out to study and admire it carefully.

And once again, I see that everyone except my husband is in favor of the attic staircase. I will need to discuss this with him again.
At the moment, there is no concrete ceiling planned toward the roof.
What additional costs should be expected if the attic is to be used for storing seasonal clothing and other items, including a fixed staircase?
11ant13 Aug 2017 15:33
Arifas schrieb:
And once again, I see that everyone except my husband is in favor of the attic stairs.

What doesn’t he like about them? Does he enjoy the “thrill” of balancing on a ladder-style stairs?
Arifas schrieb:
At the moment, no concrete ceiling is planned for the attic.
What additional costs should be expected if the attic is to be used for storing seasonal clothing and stuff, including a fixed staircase?

The ceiling material is not yet decided based on its use as storage. I wouldn’t really call it an “additional cost,” since having storage space is basically indispensable. You always have clutter that would otherwise interfere with living comfort downstairs. And for uninterrupted reading of Asterix, it’s better to retreat upstairs via a safely walkable staircase.
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Nordlys
13 Aug 2017 21:53
The top floor can have a beam ceiling with drywall, but the upper side needs to be covered with formwork boards. This way, you get a walkable storage space that even looks quite nice thanks to the wooden boards. Are you familiar with those old attic spaces used for drying laundry, with wooden floorboards and a small room for the maid from earlier times? Karsten
Arifas13 Aug 2017 22:02
He thinks the pull-down attic ladder works perfectly fine; after all, his parents have one like that leading up to their loft [emoji85]
I believe the discussion will just continue for now. Some things simply take time, and we’ll have to see what we ultimately agree on.
A larger garage, as shown in the plan, might also be an option. We supposedly have an affordable mason from our acquaintances. But I’m afraid that a masonry garage of that size, even with someone we know, will be significantly more expensive than a prefab garage combined with an attic space [emoji13]