ᐅ Layout division: open-plan kitchen, living, and dining area
Created on: 27 Jul 2017 09:59
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Bertram100
Hello dear forum members,
I have purchased an apartment from a developer. The basic floor plan is already fixed, meaning the exterior layout is set. Only after some time did I realize that the proposed floor plan is difficult to furnish. It is an open-plan space with kitchen, living, and dining areas measuring about 600 x 600 cm (236 x 236 inches). I am attaching a plan. This is the sales plan. I will probably only receive a fully dimensioned plan by the end of August.
The apartment will be completed in the third quarter of 2018, so there is still time to make some adjustments. But how? I am tearing my hair out because I have been stuck focusing on the problems and unfortunately have no new ideas. I hope you can give me a helpful nudge in a different direction.
To furnish are:
- Kitchen for 1 to 2 people
- One dining table 150 x 80 cm (59 x 31 inches) with 4 chairs
- One two-seater sofa (160 cm long (63 inches))
- One lowboard (120 cm long (47 inches))
- One highboard (100 cm long (39 inches))
- One display cabinet (90 cm long (35 inches), 110 cm high (43 inches))
- One armchair for a reading corner
All furniture except the sofa is flexible and can, if necessary, be moved to the adjacent room. The kitchen and dining table are also essential.
Also fixed are the service shaft (the diagonal black-and-white square) and, in the worst case, the WC, though I still need to confirm that.
I hope someone can give me a fresh perspective. I already asked a question in the kitchen planning forum next door, but I think it was too early for me. I couldn’t really engage much. Now it’s different, and I’m hoping for the collective intelligence here.

I have purchased an apartment from a developer. The basic floor plan is already fixed, meaning the exterior layout is set. Only after some time did I realize that the proposed floor plan is difficult to furnish. It is an open-plan space with kitchen, living, and dining areas measuring about 600 x 600 cm (236 x 236 inches). I am attaching a plan. This is the sales plan. I will probably only receive a fully dimensioned plan by the end of August.
The apartment will be completed in the third quarter of 2018, so there is still time to make some adjustments. But how? I am tearing my hair out because I have been stuck focusing on the problems and unfortunately have no new ideas. I hope you can give me a helpful nudge in a different direction.
To furnish are:
- Kitchen for 1 to 2 people
- One dining table 150 x 80 cm (59 x 31 inches) with 4 chairs
- One two-seater sofa (160 cm long (63 inches))
- One lowboard (120 cm long (47 inches))
- One highboard (100 cm long (39 inches))
- One display cabinet (90 cm long (35 inches), 110 cm high (43 inches))
- One armchair for a reading corner
All furniture except the sofa is flexible and can, if necessary, be moved to the adjacent room. The kitchen and dining table are also essential.
Also fixed are the service shaft (the diagonal black-and-white square) and, in the worst case, the WC, though I still need to confirm that.
I hope someone can give me a fresh perspective. I already asked a question in the kitchen planning forum next door, but I think it was too early for me. I couldn’t really engage much. Now it’s different, and I’m hoping for the collective intelligence here.
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Bertram1005 Aug 2017 11:21Hello dear forum,
After my first meeting with the project coordinator, I have a better understanding of my options:
- Everything is still flexible and can be adjusted, except for the utility shaft.
Installing additional cables and moving the kitchen, however, is not very cost-effective.
- At the moment, I am inclined to keep the floor plan as it is (mainly for budget reasons. My additional budget is limited. I am afraid the kitchen alone will require a significant extra amount).
- I copied a floor plan and cut out furniture to scale. I have an idea on how to better organize the open-plan living area. The idea is to build a “wall” in the middle of the left side of the plan that can serve as a niche for the sofa (or, if preferred otherwise, as a recess for furniture arrangement). The niche can also be furnished on the side facing downward on the plan.
- At the entrance, I slightly shifted the passageway from the hallway to the room, so that the small corner at the lower left between the hallway and the room can fit a small piece of furniture, and some jackets can be hung in the hallway.
- The kitchen layout shown is realistic: a row with three tall cabinets (oven, fridge, dishwasher) and a workspace for the cooking area (approximately 150cm (59 inches) of cooking and working surface total). The sink island measures about 90 x 190cm (35 x 75 inches).
The open-plan living area measures 580 x 598cm (191 x 196 inches) and must be functional for one to two adults.
I am looking forward to all feedback. Maybe there will be other ideas? I am still somewhat unsure about my open-plan living area.

After my first meeting with the project coordinator, I have a better understanding of my options:
- Everything is still flexible and can be adjusted, except for the utility shaft.
Installing additional cables and moving the kitchen, however, is not very cost-effective.
- At the moment, I am inclined to keep the floor plan as it is (mainly for budget reasons. My additional budget is limited. I am afraid the kitchen alone will require a significant extra amount).
- I copied a floor plan and cut out furniture to scale. I have an idea on how to better organize the open-plan living area. The idea is to build a “wall” in the middle of the left side of the plan that can serve as a niche for the sofa (or, if preferred otherwise, as a recess for furniture arrangement). The niche can also be furnished on the side facing downward on the plan.
- At the entrance, I slightly shifted the passageway from the hallway to the room, so that the small corner at the lower left between the hallway and the room can fit a small piece of furniture, and some jackets can be hung in the hallway.
- The kitchen layout shown is realistic: a row with three tall cabinets (oven, fridge, dishwasher) and a workspace for the cooking area (approximately 150cm (59 inches) of cooking and working surface total). The sink island measures about 90 x 190cm (35 x 75 inches).
The open-plan living area measures 580 x 598cm (191 x 196 inches) and must be functional for one to two adults.
I am looking forward to all feedback. Maybe there will be other ideas? I am still somewhat unsure about my open-plan living area.
It’s actually a nice room or rather a nice apartment.
I definitely wouldn’t put that partition wall there, as it only extends the hallway. The room itself doesn’t gain anything from it, except that it creates a separate section for the sofa.
However, in my opinion, you’ll hardly manage without a partition wall, since watching TV at 6 meters (20 feet) in such a large space doesn’t work well. Also, zoning helps with seating arrangements.
Here’s what I suggest with a swivel countertop.
Otherwise: try using HomeByMe and draw your apartment with this simple program... it’s very easy and great for individual floors [emoji2]
Edit: I would use the toilet room as a walk-in closet instead of a wardrobe [emoji847]
I definitely wouldn’t put that partition wall there, as it only extends the hallway. The room itself doesn’t gain anything from it, except that it creates a separate section for the sofa.
However, in my opinion, you’ll hardly manage without a partition wall, since watching TV at 6 meters (20 feet) in such a large space doesn’t work well. Also, zoning helps with seating arrangements.
Here’s what I suggest with a swivel countertop.
Otherwise: try using HomeByMe and draw your apartment with this simple program... it’s very easy and great for individual floors [emoji2]
Edit: I would use the toilet room as a walk-in closet instead of a wardrobe [emoji847]
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Bertram1005 Aug 2017 20:07Oops, my entire post is gone? Here we go again. One moment.
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Bertram1005 Aug 2017 20:16Ypg, thank you very much for your printing and cutting work.
I will think again about whether a single-line kitchen might actually work. I had dismissed it before because it seemed “too long” to me. It would be about 4.5m (15 feet) of kitchen. However, on the drawing, it looks quite okay and not too long.
You planned space for a TV. “I don’t have a TV at all.” I have a monitor in the cabinet that I take out specifically for watching movies. Casual TV watching I do on my laptop.
If the TV space is freed up, there is quite a lot of space in the middle. To me, it doesn’t look balanced overall—too much open space in the center and too many pieces of furniture along the edges.
I find the zoning tricky right now: I don’t have large rugs or anything that could define zones.
I thought that a short partition wall might bring a bit more “zoning” to the whole space. For now, I’m erasing it again.
Orientation: North is to the left at 9 o’clock, the balconies face east (on the plan’s upper side) and west (on the plan’s lower side).
I’ll keep thinking and tweak things a bit more. Especially the kitchen size and the zoning—I’m not sure about those yet.
I will think again about whether a single-line kitchen might actually work. I had dismissed it before because it seemed “too long” to me. It would be about 4.5m (15 feet) of kitchen. However, on the drawing, it looks quite okay and not too long.
You planned space for a TV. “I don’t have a TV at all.” I have a monitor in the cabinet that I take out specifically for watching movies. Casual TV watching I do on my laptop.
If the TV space is freed up, there is quite a lot of space in the middle. To me, it doesn’t look balanced overall—too much open space in the center and too many pieces of furniture along the edges.
I find the zoning tricky right now: I don’t have large rugs or anything that could define zones.
I thought that a short partition wall might bring a bit more “zoning” to the whole space. For now, I’m erasing it again.
Orientation: North is to the left at 9 o’clock, the balconies face east (on the plan’s upper side) and west (on the plan’s lower side).
I’ll keep thinking and tweak things a bit more. Especially the kitchen size and the zoning—I’m not sure about those yet.
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Bertram1005 Aug 2017 21:14I have a completely different question: when registering, I provided my name. I didn’t know that it would be made public. How can I undo this? I can’t find an "admin" or anything similar.
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