ᐅ L-shaped concrete blocks placed directly next to the neighbor’s fence?

Created on: 27 Jul 2017 22:06
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Henrik0817123
Hello!

We have a plot of land where the neighbors on both sides have already completed their houses, including fences and so on. Since our plot slopes downward and the house will be built slightly elevated, the terrace will be significantly higher than the existing ground level. From a design perspective, it would be best to raise the area overall and support it with L-shaped retaining walls.

Is it allowed to place these retaining walls directly next to the neighbor’s fence on our property, or what regulations apply here? We are located in North Rhine-Westphalia (NRW), and I understand that rules can vary from one federal state to another.

One of the neighbors might be difficult, so before discussing our plans with them, I would like to know what is permitted.

For example, would we have to pay for the neighbor’s fence to be altered or replaced, or can we simply build the retaining walls as described right up to the fence?

Thanks in advance!
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Henrik0817123
28 Jul 2017 13:40
I don’t think that in every residential area with a lot of new construction, everyone talks to all their neighbors when it comes to their own garden. For example, if my garden ends up at a higher elevation, why would there need to be coordination? The same basically applies if the height difference is only around 20cm (8 inches), for example.
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ypg
28 Jul 2017 14:00
You are absolutely right! I also think that "talking to neighbors" is highly overrated—especially nowadays with community forums [emoji23][emoji41]
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Henrik0817123
28 Jul 2017 14:46
Please don’t get me wrong. I’ll say it again and again – we will talk to the neighbors anyway, and of course, we want to maintain a good relationship, BUT:

Why should I discuss my plans and options jointly with three neighbors from the very beginning?
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Henrik0817123
28 Jul 2017 15:18
Attached is a rough sketch of the side section. Maybe this makes things a little clearer. As drawn, there are two things we don’t like, even though this solution probably wouldn’t bother the neighbor much:


Garden layout with fence to neighbor, planned hedge, lawn area, and terrace at the house.


1. About 80cm (31 inches) between the terrace and the lawn
2. This small ditch between the edge of the lawn and the fence, which somehow needs to be contained, with a hedge or something similar placed in the ditch.
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ypg
28 Jul 2017 16:50
As you have drawn it, that would be a good option. However, I would not use L-shaped blocks there, but rather set edge stones in mortar/dry mortar (basically what a landscaping contractor would use). This way, the neighbor won’t see a shabby wall, and the distance to the property line would also be ensured.

Regards, Yvonne
77.willo28 Jul 2017 18:11
The design looks good. I would like an elevated terrace!