ᐅ Traditional single-family house with a gable roof, approximately 130 square meters
Created on: 17 Jul 2017 08:20
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Andi1888
Hello,
Do you perhaps have some useful tips regarding the floor plans?
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Boundary development: prefabricated garage on the boundary with possible access to the utility room
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof 40-50°
Architectural style: classic single-family house
Maximum height / limits: 4.40 m (14 ft 5 in) eaves height
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: 40°, classic single-family house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: two adults, two children under 5 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: approx. 60 sqm (645 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office?
Overnight guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: only open kitchen
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen without island
Number of dining seats: 8-10
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: prefabricated garage
House Design
Who designed it: DIY
What do you particularly like? Why?:
What do you dislike? Why?: utility room too small?
Cost estimate by architect/planner: €230,000
Personal budget for house including equipment: €250,000
Preferred heating system: air heat pump
Do you perhaps have some useful tips regarding the floor plans?
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 800 sqm (8,600 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Boundary development: prefabricated garage on the boundary with possible access to the utility room
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: gable roof 40-50°
Architectural style: classic single-family house
Maximum height / limits: 4.40 m (14 ft 5 in) eaves height
Client Requirements
Style, roof shape, building type: 40°, classic single-family house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: two adults, two children under 5 years
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: approx. 60 sqm (645 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office?
Overnight guests per year: 0
Open or closed architecture: only open kitchen
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen without island
Number of dining seats: 8-10
Fireplace: no
Garage, carport: prefabricated garage
House Design
Who designed it: DIY
What do you particularly like? Why?:
What do you dislike? Why?: utility room too small?
Cost estimate by architect/planner: €230,000
Personal budget for house including equipment: €250,000
Preferred heating system: air heat pump
lastdrop schrieb:
That’s a bit contradictory, isn’t it? 😉Nope!
This floor plan was created at some point as well.
The layout is completely standard, similar to what almost every building designer has in their drawer, but there is a better distribution of square meters if a different floor area is chosen.
Thanks for your honest feedback.
Would you rather widen the house or extend its length? And then reduce the other dimension accordingly? I was thinking the living room should be about 4m wide (13 feet) to avoid a tunnel effect.
Since no basement is planned, storage space will be available in the attic and in the garage.
Could you please try to explain that in more detail?
The plan so far is to have a built-in closet directly under the solid staircase where shoes and seasonal clothing can be stored.
ypg schrieb:
But not on a square floor plan.
Would you rather widen the house or extend its length? And then reduce the other dimension accordingly? I was thinking the living room should be about 4m wide (13 feet) to avoid a tunnel effect.
ypg schrieb:
Then a lot of storage space is missing.
Since no basement is planned, storage space will be available in the attic and in the garage.
ypg schrieb:
Having the windows designed as floor-level windows is, in my opinion, a small disaster because the incoming light doesn’t illuminate the room, but rather the ceiling.
Could you please try to explain that in more detail?
ypg schrieb:
Under the stairs, all the outerwear of four people will create a clutter spot.
The plan so far is to have a built-in closet directly under the solid staircase where shoes and seasonal clothing can be stored.
Andi1888 schrieb:
Thanks for your honest feedback.
Would you rather expand the house in width or length? And accordingly reduce the other direction? I had thought the living room should be about 4 meters (13 feet) wide to avoid a tunnel effect.
Storage space is planned on the attic since there is no basement, and also in the garage.
Could you please try to explain that to me in more detail?
So far, a built-in closet is planned directly under the solid staircase to store shoes and seasonal clothing.Of course, you’re right that the living room should be about 4 meters (13 feet) wide. But if you sketch in the dining table and kitchen units, you’ll see what I mean. It’s not meant critically, just to help save some square meters that could be better allocated elsewhere as needed.
Storage space: closing off the space under the stairs to create storage is a very good idea. That’s not obvious in the plan. However, I doubt there will be enough room there for seasonal clothes (my husband, the rascal, owns over 20 jackets, even though he doesn’t care much about clothing… he certainly won’t want to store his work or motorcycle jacket in the attic, and the garage would ruin those clothes).
It wouldn’t be such an issue if the bedrooms offered sufficient storage space.
Storage for cleaning supplies, batteries, small tools, unused electrical devices, packed sports bags, stroller, vacuum cleaner, ironing board, laundry to iron, Christmas decorations, wrapping paper, file folders, stationery, printer, craft supplies, shoe care products, mop, camera equipment, etc., can’t be kept only in the attic or garage. Okay, Christmas decorations can go upstairs... 🙂
But for all the other items mentioned, you’ll need at least 3 meters (10 feet) of vertical closet space, in addition to everyday clothing storage.
Since you have a building envelope of 15 meters (49 feet) depth, 14 meters (46 feet) width, and want to keep 15 meters (49 feet) clear at the front, I would orient the house sideways, with the entrance at the front. I think that would also work well with the southwest orientation?
Is the roof orientation prescribed?
I’ll look for some example designs that might fit better.
Do you already have a construction supervisor / building contractor?
Best regards in brief
ypg schrieb:
No offense intended I wouldn’t share my floor plan here if I were 100% satisfied with it ;-)
ypg schrieb:
to save some square meters that are surplus and use them elsewhere as needed. Do you have a good idea how to enlarge the utility room?
ypg schrieb:
I would position the house sideways, with the door at the front. I think that would also work well with the southwest direction?
Is the roof orientation fixed? Maybe I should have been a bit more detailed here.
The gable side must face the street.
The kitchen is desired to be on the street side and the living room facing south/southwest.
Unfortunately, I haven’t found a solution to have the entrance on the gable side.
ypg schrieb:
I’m going to look for sample designs that fit better. That would be great.
ypg schrieb:
Do you already have a building contractor? We are still in the selection process but already have two favorites.
... and I understand you have to build two stories.
I don’t have a calculator handy right now, but does it add up with 125mm (5 inches) sand-lime bricks and a 40-degree roof pitch that two-thirds of the upper floor is over 2.30 meters (7.5 feet) above the ground floor footprint?
Well, if necessary, you’ll have to go up to 45 degrees.
A gable facing the street... of course, I didn’t know that now.
But I think I saw a plan once. From memory, the kitchen was on the street side... downside: kitchen, dining, and living areas are all aligned along the plot boundary. The staircase is a quarter-turn, and there is a room on the ground floor.
Certain things could be changed, but then the kitchen would no longer be on the street side 😉
I revised your square floor plan (rough sketch) because I read the two-story requirement, which means there is actually more space upstairs than I initially thought. Downside: a room is added between the kitchen and the street (whether it’s called a utility room or office doesn’t matter). The kitchen moves further toward the center of the house, creating a smaller combined dining and living area, but the kitchen and dining layout becomes more compact. This is where the disproportion lies.
The staircase is mirrored, making the bathroom smaller, and the room upstairs at the top left bigger (allowing for a large walk-in closet in the master area).
Let me say this very clearly: a 130sqm (1400 sq ft) house designed to be compact and cost-effective cannot afford to dedicate the entire length just to kitchen and dining.
The orientation also matters here. Additionally, I have to keep saying: the plot dictates the house.
So you should get comfortable with looking out sideways from the kitchen toward the street 🙂
I don’t have a calculator handy right now, but does it add up with 125mm (5 inches) sand-lime bricks and a 40-degree roof pitch that two-thirds of the upper floor is over 2.30 meters (7.5 feet) above the ground floor footprint?
Well, if necessary, you’ll have to go up to 45 degrees.
A gable facing the street... of course, I didn’t know that now.
But I think I saw a plan once. From memory, the kitchen was on the street side... downside: kitchen, dining, and living areas are all aligned along the plot boundary. The staircase is a quarter-turn, and there is a room on the ground floor.
Certain things could be changed, but then the kitchen would no longer be on the street side 😉
I revised your square floor plan (rough sketch) because I read the two-story requirement, which means there is actually more space upstairs than I initially thought. Downside: a room is added between the kitchen and the street (whether it’s called a utility room or office doesn’t matter). The kitchen moves further toward the center of the house, creating a smaller combined dining and living area, but the kitchen and dining layout becomes more compact. This is where the disproportion lies.
The staircase is mirrored, making the bathroom smaller, and the room upstairs at the top left bigger (allowing for a large walk-in closet in the master area).
Let me say this very clearly: a 130sqm (1400 sq ft) house designed to be compact and cost-effective cannot afford to dedicate the entire length just to kitchen and dining.
The orientation also matters here. Additionally, I have to keep saying: the plot dictates the house.
So you should get comfortable with looking out sideways from the kitchen toward the street 🙂
Andi1888 schrieb:
I wouldn’t post my floor plan here if I were 100% satisfied with it ;-) This thread isn’t really about how much everyone criticizes their floor plans ;-)
So what actually applies here: the floor plan or the elevation? – the utility room has an interior door shown once, and an exterior door shown another time.
I also don’t understand the point that floor-to-ceiling windows illuminate the ceiling more than the room. However, the two dimensions of the windows have different effects: greater width allows more light to enter throughout the day, while greater height ensures a more even distribution of light throughout the year.
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