Hello everyone,
We have started over with a different architect. The corner windows from my previous thread have now been discarded. We look forward to your opinions and suggestions for improvement.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 454m² (about 4,888 sq ft)
Slope: no slope
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundaries: see plan
Border development: garage on boundary, 1.5 meters (5 feet) from the street
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: modern
Building orientation: eaves-facing
Maximum heights / limits: 6.5 meters (21 ft)
Additional requirements: max 0.7 m (28 inches) roof overhang, no roof eaves, roof pitch 30–35°
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: two-story single-family house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 (26 years old), 2 children planned
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: approx. 75m² (807 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office? Mostly family use
Overnight guests per year: 5–10
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: 1 garage, space for 1 car in front of garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planner: architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Floor-to-ceiling windows, appearance
What do you not like? Why? Staircase design in the plan (alternatives?)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: ~250,000 (plumbing/heating/drywall as DIY)
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 260,000
Preferred heating technology: gas + solar thermal for domestic hot water
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? We had little time due to complete replanning and used a design from a large prefab house company that we liked. This was then optimized and adapted to the house dimensions.
Questions we have:
- The utility/technical room with 8m² (86 sq ft) will probably be too small, I assume. Where could space be saved? Controlled ventilation/heating, washing machine, our small current kitchen (along the wall on the right when entering, could be “shortened” accordingly) and a drying rack should fit there.
- Do you have a better idea for the position of the fireplace? Between the two windows seems a bit tight. We would actually prefer the wall opposite, but then the chimney does not fit with the room layout upstairs.
- Is the entrance area possibly too narrow, or is there another way to place the stairs? We would actually like to place the front door in the center, but then according to the plan the stairs are in the way.
If any more information is needed, just let me know.
We look forward to your comments!
Best regards
We have started over with a different architect. The corner windows from my previous thread have now been discarded. We look forward to your opinions and suggestions for improvement.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 454m² (about 4,888 sq ft)
Slope: no slope
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundaries: see plan
Border development: garage on boundary, 1.5 meters (5 feet) from the street
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: modern
Building orientation: eaves-facing
Maximum heights / limits: 6.5 meters (21 ft)
Additional requirements: max 0.7 m (28 inches) roof overhang, no roof eaves, roof pitch 30–35°
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: two-story single-family house
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 floors
Number of occupants, age: 2 (26 years old), 2 children planned
Space requirement on ground floor and upper floor: approx. 75m² (807 sq ft) each
Office: family use or home office? Mostly family use
Overnight guests per year: 5–10
Open or closed architecture: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6–8
Fireplace: yes
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: 1 garage, space for 1 car in front of garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain things should or should not be included
House Design
Planner: architect
What do you particularly like? Why? Floor-to-ceiling windows, appearance
What do you not like? Why? Staircase design in the plan (alternatives?)
Price estimate according to architect/planner: ~250,000 (plumbing/heating/drywall as DIY)
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 260,000
Preferred heating technology: gas + solar thermal for domestic hot water
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? We had little time due to complete replanning and used a design from a large prefab house company that we liked. This was then optimized and adapted to the house dimensions.
Questions we have:
- The utility/technical room with 8m² (86 sq ft) will probably be too small, I assume. Where could space be saved? Controlled ventilation/heating, washing machine, our small current kitchen (along the wall on the right when entering, could be “shortened” accordingly) and a drying rack should fit there.
- Do you have a better idea for the position of the fireplace? Between the two windows seems a bit tight. We would actually prefer the wall opposite, but then the chimney does not fit with the room layout upstairs.
- Is the entrance area possibly too narrow, or is there another way to place the stairs? We would actually like to place the front door in the center, but then according to the plan the stairs are in the way.
If any more information is needed, just let me know.
We look forward to your comments!
Best regards
sven.conzi8 Jul 2017 16:19Please arrange the furniture to scale so that it becomes clear where the layout does not fit well yet.
So, here I am again. The evening "bread" is in the oven, and I have a bit more time to take a closer look at the old design for comparison. I think discarding it is a good idea. Unfortunately, it seems a bad habit has been carried over: both the old and the new designs seem to share the same starting point of a certain level of clarity in the facade design, and the floor plan development tries to fit into this framework.
The result is, for example, dissatisfaction with the staircase (but only because of its visual effect on the front door position), or merely a storage room instead of a walk-in closet. The latter actually contradicts the house planning approach, which is like choosing the eyeshadow first and then looking for a blouse to match. Someone like that would actually want a walk-in closet that allows for a proper fashion show.
I would recommend the opposite: first the room program, then the layout, then the window shutters, and then check and possibly model these on the elevations.
How little time are we talking about, and why does the groundbreaking have to happen when?
To "optimize" a design and "adjust it to dimensions" is a nice Heisenberg experiment: that "two complementary properties of a particle cannot be determined simultaneously with arbitrary precision" could hardly be illustrated more trivially. "The best-known example of such a pair of properties is position and momentum" – here and in Ev-Marie86’s thread, you can clearly see it in the pair "working basic design" and "different dimensions" (or in Schnuckline’s thread in the pair "keep dimensions" but "change the layout").
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
The result is, for example, dissatisfaction with the staircase (but only because of its visual effect on the front door position), or merely a storage room instead of a walk-in closet. The latter actually contradicts the house planning approach, which is like choosing the eyeshadow first and then looking for a blouse to match. Someone like that would actually want a walk-in closet that allows for a proper fashion show.
I would recommend the opposite: first the room program, then the layout, then the window shutters, and then check and possibly model these on the elevations.
Mat91 schrieb:
Had little time due to a complete re-planning, so we oriented ourselves on a design from a major prefab house manufacturer that we liked. This was then optimized and adjusted to the house dimensions.
How little time are we talking about, and why does the groundbreaking have to happen when?
To "optimize" a design and "adjust it to dimensions" is a nice Heisenberg experiment: that "two complementary properties of a particle cannot be determined simultaneously with arbitrary precision" could hardly be illustrated more trivially. "The best-known example of such a pair of properties is position and momentum" – here and in Ev-Marie86’s thread, you can clearly see it in the pair "working basic design" and "different dimensions" (or in Schnuckline’s thread in the pair "keep dimensions" but "change the layout").
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
ypg schrieb:
Which house is the idea based on?
I’d like to ask my question again:
Which home builder did you take the house from and then reduce in size?
Best regards, Yvonne
ypg schrieb:
I’m reposting my question:
From which house supplier did you take over the house and then reduce its size?
Regards, Yvonne Sorry for the late reply. It’s the Maxime 420 from Viebrockhaus. We only reduced the living area by about 10 m² (108 sq ft).
ypg schrieb:
but in this case, it looks very nice!
However, you can easily skip having the upper floor and ground floor be symmetrical here.
The staircase doesn’t fit the house dimensions. Many things don’t fit.
If you omitted the large glass facade on the upper floor (staircase), you could even create a small room by rotating the bathroom 90 degrees. The children’s room is very narrow, and the walk-in closet with two meters (6.5 feet) only fits one wardrobe, not two opposite each other.
The cloakroom barely accommodates the usual winter coats and shoes for four people.
The bathroom faces south, as does the guest toilet. But the children don’t get any sun in winter when the sun rises in the southeast. In winter, the sun sets in the southwest... keep that in mind for the living room.
Why is the garage on the left and not on the right???
Unfortunately, I can’t access your earlier posts or the initial discussion. But since I’m also struggling to wrap my head around this, I at least have a deja vu about it. Thanks for your feedback! Regarding the garage: we can only place it on the left directly at the property boundary. On the right side, we must keep a 1.5 meter (5 feet) setback from the street. So, we basically have no other choice.
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