ᐅ How can you bypass energy-saving regulations and avoid bureaucratic hassle?
Created on: 8 Jul 2017 19:26
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Farilo
Hello everyone,
Is it possible to build without following the energy saving regulations?
I want to avoid unnecessary insulation and similar measures. At the same time, I want to maintain the great indoor climate that exists in this building from 1959.
Although it was barely insulated, the house remains completely dry and the indoor climate is excellent.
I am planning to build an extension that fits this outstanding indoor climate. All these modern insulation methods are not helpful in this case.
Does anyone have some kind of exemption from the energy saving regulation and can share how they obtained it?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Is it possible to build without following the energy saving regulations?
I want to avoid unnecessary insulation and similar measures. At the same time, I want to maintain the great indoor climate that exists in this building from 1959.
Although it was barely insulated, the house remains completely dry and the indoor climate is excellent.
I am planning to build an extension that fits this outstanding indoor climate. All these modern insulation methods are not helpful in this case.
Does anyone have some kind of exemption from the energy saving regulation and can share how they obtained it?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
I don’t understand the Enterprise thing either. I guess we’re both a bit slow Since I don’t have all the device names or abbreviations on hand yet, I jokingly call them “Enterprise starship galaxy technology.” I overheard that somewhere around here, LOL.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
When do you want to leave the door open for 2 hours? You’re talking about cost-effectiveness, so you must mean winter, but the air then is very dry — the connection doesn’t make sense to me. Well, whenever I feel like it! When I’m grilling on the patio, my friends are chatting in the living room, and I want to join the conversation from the grill. When I’m just reading a book and want to listen to the geese wandering on the lake. When the kids are going in and out all day and I don’t want to open the door every two minutes. It doesn’t matter whether it’s winter, autumn, summer, or spring.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
How is air supposed to escape better in an old house than in an insulated one? Those things are unrelated. An old house has leaky windows and roof; that’s why air circulates better there. ??? I don’t get it.
If the windows and roof are leaky, doesn’t air only come in from outside but not go out?
I don’t understand your point about the air at all. Sorry.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
Unfortunately, you throw around slogans without understanding the context. Huh?!
I just said I don’t understand and asked you specific questions because of that.
I don’t see an answer to my question in your post.
Sorry if I misunderstood something.
Farilo schrieb:
So with these Enterprise technology houses, you can leave a patio door open for 2-3 hours without it becoming disproportionately inefficient?
I’m not sure what Enterprise refers to here, but yes: you can open windows. That’s called ventilation [emoji23]
Or leave them open all day in summer. Why not?
In winter, it becomes inefficient, so a ventilation system is worthwhile, and then you DON’T have to ventilate manually.
Best regards briefly
It’s a bit like asking why an apple doesn’t taste like a pear. And when someone explains that an apple just tastes like an apple, you then ask why an apple tastes like an apple...
I don’t really know what else to say here.
If you open the patio door in summer, moisture will enter the house, and you ventilate it out again at night by opening the windows. In a very old house, the windows and roof aren’t airtight, so the moisture would escape even if you didn’t ventilate.
In winter, you don’t grill indoors; if you do, the apartment just gets cold, but not humid. From an economic point of view, an insulated house doesn’t make sense if you do this every day, because then you don’t need insulation at all. But then you have heating costs of 8,000 euros, or indoor temperatures of around 10°C (50°F).
Sorry, but I can’t explain it any better. So, good night.
I don’t really know what else to say here.
If you open the patio door in summer, moisture will enter the house, and you ventilate it out again at night by opening the windows. In a very old house, the windows and roof aren’t airtight, so the moisture would escape even if you didn’t ventilate.
In winter, you don’t grill indoors; if you do, the apartment just gets cold, but not humid. From an economic point of view, an insulated house doesn’t make sense if you do this every day, because then you don’t need insulation at all. But then you have heating costs of 8,000 euros, or indoor temperatures of around 10°C (50°F).
Sorry, but I can’t explain it any better. So, good night.
ypg schrieb:
For someone who has no clue, you’re really letting off a lot of steam here [emoji53]
Brief regards(If you mean me by that: please don’t be overly sensitive now.I’m not insulting anyone. Think about it.)
I’m going through the thread and your answers again now. I think I might have a fundamental misunderstanding. Because I believe we’re completely talking past each other... Talk soon.
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
If you open the patio door in summer, moisture enters the house. You then ventilate it out at night by opening the windows. In a very old house, windows and roof are not airtight, so the moisture would also escape even if you don’t ventilate.Summer daytime – door open = moisture in.
Summer nighttime – door open = moisture out.
If that’s true, then what’s the point of all the insulation?
For winter! Okay, let’s see...
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
In winter, you don’t grill outside; if you do, it will just get cold inside, but not humid. A well-insulated house isn’t economical if you do that every day, because then you don’t need insulation at all. But you’ll have heating costs of 8,000 euros, or temperatures around 10°C (50°F) inside.Winter daytime – door open = very cold and bone dry. → Heating needed and expensive. Insulation might even be counterproductive here, since cold air can’t easily escape and must be warmed through high energy input?
So it’s expensive either way! One without prior investment in insulation, and the other with?
What about the argument that natural stone absorbs heat from the sun more slowly during the day but also releases it more slowly? So the stored heat could then partly warm the house, saving heating costs? Is that nonsense?
On the other hand, a heavily insulated house doesn’t let solar heat enter at all, so it can’t be passed on?
Is this just a myth that sounds good but is actually wrong?
I feel like I need training in masonry, natural sciences, physics, mathematics, and biology, otherwise I just don’t get it.
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