ᐅ How can you bypass energy-saving regulations and avoid bureaucratic hassle?

Created on: 8 Jul 2017 19:26
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Farilo
Hello everyone,

Is it possible to build without following the energy saving regulations?
I want to avoid unnecessary insulation and similar measures. At the same time, I want to maintain the great indoor climate that exists in this building from 1959.
Although it was barely insulated, the house remains completely dry and the indoor climate is excellent.

I am planning to build an extension that fits this outstanding indoor climate. All these modern insulation methods are not helpful in this case.

Does anyone have some kind of exemption from the energy saving regulation and can share how they obtained it?

Thanks in advance.
Best regards
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ypg
9 Jul 2017 22:10
Nowhere in your initial post, including the headline, does it say that it should be about polystyrene insulation or polystyrene or ETICS (External Thermal Insulation Composite Systems). In my opinion, this is also not evident from your content...

Best regards in brief
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Farilo
9 Jul 2017 22:21
ypg schrieb:
Nowhere in your initial post, including the headline, does it say it’s about polystyrene insulation or polystyrene or ETICS. In my opinion, it’s also not clear from your content...



Brief regards
Hi ypg,

that’s true. I have no idea about the thousands of different options out there. But all of that is coming soon!

I just don’t like the basic idea of insulation combined with “windows, if possible, please don’t open” and “enterprise air exchange technology,” no matter what type of insulation it is.

And yes, I understand that supposedly I don’t need to open the window, thanks to the enterprise ventilation system. BUT, I WANT to open it! Kids play outside and are constantly coming in and out. I want to feel the breeze from the lake in the air. I want to hear nature. (The house is surrounded by a nature reserve).

Sure, I could play a nature loop on YouTube through the sound system and spray fresh water from a can onto the fan. But that’s just not the same... At least, not for me.
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ypg
9 Jul 2017 22:28
ypg schrieb:
Of course you can. Who says you’re not allowed to open windows? This is just another common myth about the reputation of mechanical ventilation systems with heat recovery, but it has little to do with energy-saving regulations or insulation.

Regards, Yvonne

As I mentioned yesterday.
You may and can open them, but it’s not necessary.
The advantage is that in winter you don’t waste energy by letting it out through the window.

Best regards in brief
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Lumpi_LE
9 Jul 2017 22:35
You seem to be stuck on the window issue, even though it has been repeatedly mentioned that opening the windows is not a problem... I don’t understand what your concern is.

Regarding when insulation is worthwhile: we bought a house from the 1930s that was still in the condition typical of that era. It had 120 sqm (1,292 sq ft). The previous owner’s heating costs were 5,000 euros. We now have about 180 sqm (1,938 sq ft) and expect heating costs around 500 euros.
Over 20 years, that amounts to 90,000 euros. With that money, you could insulate the house three times over and still install a new heating system twice.
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Farilo
9 Jul 2017 22:40
Lumpi_LE schrieb:
You seem to be fixated on your windows, even though it has been said several times that opening the windows is not a problem... I don’t understand your issue.

Regarding when insulation is worthwhile: we bought a 1930s house, in the condition typical for that era. It was 120 sqm (1300 sq ft). The previous owner had heating costs of 5000 euros. We now have about 180 sqm (1937 sq ft) and expect around 500... Over 20 years, that’s 90,000 euros... You could insulate the house three times over and still install a new heating system twice.

I admit what everyone already knows. Apparently, I am slow to understand. Sorry.

So, tell me briefly... (Honest questions!)

In these high-tech, airtight homes, can you really leave a patio door open for 2 to 3 hours without it becoming disproportionately inefficient?

And what happens with the moist air coming from outside, which then remains trapped inside the insulated house? It can’t escape because it’s like a thermos. Is this managed by one of those ventilation systems? Doesn’t that make it work too hard, which in turn consumes energy and thus costs money?

Best regards
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Lumpi_LE
9 Jul 2017 22:46
I don’t understand the part about the enterprise either. I guess we’re both a bit slow on the uptake.

When exactly do you want to leave the door open for 2 hours? You’re talking about cost-effectiveness, so you must mean winter, but the air is extremely dry then, so I don’t see the connection.

How is the air supposed to escape better in an old house than in an insulated one? Those things aren’t related. In an old house, the windows and roof are drafty, which is why there’s better airflow.

Unfortunately, you’re throwing around slogans without understanding the context.