ᐅ How to modify a floor plan?

Created on: 21 Jun 2017 11:14
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arnonyme
Hello everyone,

I already posted a floor plan in the building costs forum.
There was a comment that the children's rooms are too small.
Yesterday, I visited a show home for a quote and took a look at the rooms there.

I have to admit, I was a bit shocked by the size of the children's rooms, which were about 11 sqm (118 sq ft). So, hardly smaller than what we have planned. It’s hard to imagine the room size just from the paper.

Do you have any ideas on how to enlarge the three children's rooms on the upper floor without completely changing the entire floor plan?

Or if you have any other criticism or suggestions for improvement, feel free to share.

Best regards,
Steffen

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haydee
5 Jul 2017 19:14
I find the children's bedrooms too small in relation to the total floor area and compared to other rooms. At the moment, the size is sufficient and even spacious, but the children will grow, and their needs will change accordingly.

The older the children get, the less interested they become in the garden. As their interest in the garden decreases, the need for space in the children's bedrooms increases.
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arnonyme
5 Jul 2017 23:42
ypg schrieb:
Well, the floor plan IS changeable... you know that, since you are asking here, very precisely

Yes, but how? I’ve already shown it to several people and no one had any ideas.

The ground floor should remain as it is, that’s decided.
And redesigning is fine in theory. Take a look at the building envelope and tell me what could have been done better.
You are almost forced to build with angles.
Just a simple rectangular box would definitely be rejected by the design review board.

The only option would be to remove the basement and distribute the rooms over 2 full floors plus a penthouse or a 3rd full floor.
Although 3 full floors would look somewhat bulky again.
You would have to build something similar to the neighboring building:


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However, due to all the cantilevered elements, this certainly wouldn’t be cheaper.

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ypg
6 Jul 2017 00:06
arnonyme schrieb:
Yes, but how? I’ve already shown it to several people and no one had any ideas.

I’m not going to scroll back, but I vaguely remember suggesting that you reduce the size of your bedroom, which you rejected.
And honestly: you tell the architect (according to your statement, you have one) what changes you’d like. So I don’t really see the problem.
However, I do believe you have fallen in love with your own design and therefore a) are stuck in the one-way street of the self-designing homeowner and b) simply lack alternative ideas and possibilities yourself.

And b) unfortunately can’t be solved if you’re convinced of your oversized design.

Ultimately, I agree with you when you say that a sleeping area doesn’t need 26 sq m (280 sq ft)... so you could easily take away a full 10 sq m (108 sq ft) from the right-hand part and make it available for the youth.

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kaho6746 Jul 2017 07:43
Well, this seems pretty stuck. I wonder if the kid’s shower could fit over the staircase. Then it might be worth considering something like that. The master bedroom would of course need to be rearranged – the bathroom would become a bit smaller. Just a sketch, I don’t have anything to draw with here.

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kaho6746 Jul 2017 10:04
Accordingly, the staircase could be adjusted and this corner at the entrance could be removed.

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arnonyme
6 Jul 2017 10:20
Hello kaho,

thank you very much for the suggestions. I didn’t expect anyone to come up with specific proposals again.

They are really great. As it is now, my wife wouldn’t agree because the bathroom would be too small (she wants to put a washing machine and dryer in there, for some reason…).

However, if I swap the bedroom and bathroom, it could work.
I have already applied for the door from the kitchen to the hallway.
ypg schrieb:
I’m not going to scroll back, but I recall roughly suggesting to reduce your bedroom size, which you rejected.
And honestly: you tell the architect (according to your statement you have one) what changes you want. So I don’t see a problem here.
However, I believe you have fallen in love with your self-designed plan and therefore a) you are stuck in the one-way street of the self-designing homeowner and b) lack possibilities and ideas yourself.

And b) unfortunately can’t be solved when you are convinced of your own superiority.

Ultimately, I agree with you when you say: a sleeping area does not need 26 sqm (280 sq ft)… therefore, it’s perfectly fine to carve out a total of 10 sqm (108 sq ft) from the right side for the kids.

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No, I did not design the plan.
And no, I’m not the only one who finds the small kids’ rooms unsuitable.
My wife would actually prefer to leave it as it is — she thinks 12 sqm (130 sq ft) is absolutely sufficient, just so you know.

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