ᐅ Floor plan design for a hillside house with 5 children's bedrooms

Created on: 17 Jun 2017 12:31
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Arifas
Dear fellow contributors,
I’m sharing our first attempt at the floor plan. Unfortunately, I can’t fill out the list because copying it over on my phone doesn’t work properly, sorry.

Key data:
5 children between 0 and 11 years old
2 adults in their mid-thirties
Plot of about 900 sqm (9700 sq ft), facing north
Building window edge on the street side: 17.35 m (57 ft)
Sloped site; within the building window, the ground rises about 2 m (7 ft) over 10 m (33 ft) from front to back

We want 5 small children’s bedrooms, a slightly larger office for working from home, a master bedroom, three showers, three toilets, a bathtub, and access to the garden through the living room on the upper floor. One wall in the children’s rooms should be removable later.
The attic is walkable.

We are allowed to build 2 full stories, with a ridge height of about 12 m (39 ft) and an eave height of 11.6 m (38 ft).
We would prefer a hip roof.
The current drawing is 9.5 by 11 m (31 by 36 ft), but we would like to have around 195 to 205 sqm (2100 to 2200 sq ft) of living space later; garage or storage will be added.
The back wall of the house is embedded up to about 2 m (7 ft) into the slope.

I will try to attach a rough overview of the plot.

Handgezeichnetes Grundriss-Skizzenblatt mit Raumaufteilung und Beschriftungen

OG-Grundriss: Terrasse oben, Sofa, Küche, Essen, Kamin, HWR, Bad, Kind 4, Treppe
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ypg
27 Jun 2017 20:09
Do you have a building setback or a building line where the house must be positioned? Could it be placed on the right side at the 3-meter (10 feet) boundary? And where are you planning to put your parking space?

Best regards, Yvonne
Arifas27 Jun 2017 20:43
Unfortunately, I don’t know that. I believe you need to keep a minimum distance of 3m (10 feet) from the road.
Parking spaces: to the right side of the house for visitors, one or two angled or perpendicular in front of the house, and on the left side a driveway with a carport. Or vice versa. Something like that.
You can build up to 3m (10 feet) from the property boundary on the right or left side. So, in theory, right at the front building line (is that what the front side of the building area is called?)* 11.35m (37 feet) wide.
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ypg
27 Jun 2017 22:58
So, I’m done... the rear side should be about 14 meters (45 feet) (building area).

I dug out my old PC with my reliable software, so I was able to run the calculations [emoji6].
I will transfer the files tomorrow.

But to be honest: I moved the stairs back and forth, tried different models. None of them work—except mine or something similar.

Even the stairs from your planner don’t work; if they are supposed to lead to the attic, your head will hit the beams.

And I definitely recommend this: although I planned a large closet in the hallway and the laundry room as well, you absolutely need a direct staircase to the attic for storage and putting things away. I wouldn’t settle for just a pull-down ladder if I were you.

So, I planned something similar to the current one, but with everything you want included.

Best, Yvonne
11ant27 Jun 2017 23:12
Arifas schrieb:
As long as the "footprint" doesn’t change, we can move walls around as much as we want.

That sounds nice, but unfortunately it’s typical of contractors who will build anything – even uninhabitable rooms can get approved.
ypg schrieb:
Do you have this building envelope or a building line where the house has to be placed?

Yes, the zoning plan would be useful by now for a more informed discussion.
Arifas schrieb:
So, theoretically right at the front building setback line (is that what the front side of the building envelope is called)?

The building envelope is defined by lines drawn in blue (building boundaries, which you may touch) or red (building lines, where the building must align).
ypg schrieb:
Even the stairs from your designer don’t work – if they’re supposed to lead up to the attic, your head will hit the rafters.

No, they aren’t supposed to, see the folding attic ladder on the floor plan. Otherwise, yes, you’d hit your head.
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Arifas27 Jun 2017 23:47
ypg schrieb:
So, I’m done... the building area at the back should be around 14 meters (45 feet) wide.
I dug out my old PC with my good software to run some calculations [emoji6]
I will transfer the files tomorrow.

But honestly, I moved the stairs back and forth, tried different models. None of them work – except mine or similar ones.

Not even the stairs from your planner’s design work. If they are supposed to lead to the attic, the head hits the beams.

And I definitely recommend this: although I planned a large closet in the hallway with the guys and also the laundry room, you absolutely need a direct staircase to the attic for storage and access. I wouldn’t settle for a pull-down or retractable staircase in your case.

So, I planned something similar to what I have now, but with everything you want included.

Best regards, Yvonne

I am really curious.

We had an appointment at the plot today. We agreed that the entire house can be newly planned with their architect. With the current draft, we at least have a rough idea of the cost and whether approximately 190 square meters (2,050 square feet), plus or minus, can fit on this plot at all. And yes, somehow it works [emoji12]. So, we are buying the plot now.

Should I post the zoning plan / building permit details here? Or would you prefer certain information instead?

One more question about the plot: There is a large tree within the building area and three smaller ones very close by. The selling bank offered us a discount because of these trees. We (I’m handling this, my husband doesn’t have time at the moment) have to make an offer.
What should I propose?
Removing and uprooting the large tree will cost about 1,500 euros. The plot is supposed to cost around 80,000 euros. Another construction phase has just been developed there, so there are several plots available.
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ypg
27 Jun 2017 23:54
Yes, the retractable attic ladder from an average house was reused.
I can’t understand how, as a planner, you wouldn’t even begin to consider usable space for seven people when starting from a standard four-person house. Of course, adding another staircase costs more, but the family needs that space for everyday life.
As a thought, I would also consider a split level for three children’s bedrooms facing north, which would allow a truly multifunctional design by preparing a separate apartment and an appropriate area for a practice.
@Arifas there was also no needs assessment or advice about the optimal building shape or roof type, for example a shed roof, possibly offset, so that the rooms on the north side could benefit from southern sun exposure?

Regards, Yvonne