Hello, I hope you can help me.
Current situation:
We are building an extension, about 110m2 (1,184 sq ft).
We have the building plan and building permit / planning permission.
The excavation has been done.
Our architect wants to create a working plan, but we don’t need one and haven’t commissioned it. He is asking for 1,800€ for it. Our site manager suggests we should pay, so the architect will be cooperative in the future.
I feel pressured.
Is it costly to change the architect? Is it even a good idea?
Thank you in advance
DANI
Current situation:
We are building an extension, about 110m2 (1,184 sq ft).
We have the building plan and building permit / planning permission.
The excavation has been done.
Our architect wants to create a working plan, but we don’t need one and haven’t commissioned it. He is asking for 1,800€ for it. Our site manager suggests we should pay, so the architect will be cooperative in the future.
I feel pressured.
Is it costly to change the architect? Is it even a good idea?
Thank you in advance
DANI
We pay the architect according to the HOAI fee structure.
ypg schrieb:
It reads as if you’re simply upset about the additional costs of 1800 that weren’t planned for before.I see it more as a typical misunderstanding from a non-expert perspective. It looks like this: the permit is approved, so that’s settled—nothing else should be missing. Now the complications guy wants to redraw the plan twice as big to get an extra two thousand from us. No way!
You can’t be expected to know that “if you want to bake a cake, you need seven ingredients” isn’t specific enough for the actual cake, and now the recipe with exact quantities and ingredients is required. Only then does the cocktail cherry really go in the middle.
But the site manager should have clarified that this isn’t just a formality for the architect, but an essential basis to ensure that the approved plan is implemented exactly as desired.
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Thanks in advance for the many responses.
Several professionals, including the structural engineer and construction manager, told me that a detailed construction plan is not necessary for a small extension. Therefore, I relied on their expert opinion.
Our architect created this plan without consulting us or any subcontractors. To my knowledge, details such as electrical wiring, plumbing, and similar elements should be included in such a plan, or am I mistaken again?
Several professionals, including the structural engineer and construction manager, told me that a detailed construction plan is not necessary for a small extension. Therefore, I relied on their expert opinion.
Our architect created this plan without consulting us or any subcontractors. To my knowledge, details such as electrical wiring, plumbing, and similar elements should be included in such a plan, or am I mistaken again?
I wouldn’t call 110 sqm (1,184 sq ft) "small." Detailed execution drawings are definitely just as important for an extension as they are for a new build—in fact, even more so: the connections to the existing structure are often major sources of potential damage.
Including switches and sockets in the plans makes sense, but the requirement for electrical cables to run in straight lines is already clearly regulated and understood, so detailed drawings for that are not always necessary. In my experience, plumbers are generally not known for carefully studying plans in detail.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Including switches and sockets in the plans makes sense, but the requirement for electrical cables to run in straight lines is already clearly regulated and understood, so detailed drawings for that are not always necessary. In my experience, plumbers are generally not known for carefully studying plans in detail.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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Bieber08159 Jun 2017 21:1811ant schrieb:
There are many potential sources of damage at the connection points to the existing structure.I completely agree with that. 11ant schrieb:
Personally, I haven’t noticed plumbers being great readers.Documentation of water-bearing pipes is definitely a good idea.Do we even know any details about the extension? The size doesn’t really matter. What construction method is being used (existing building and new part)? What type of extension is it, and which trades will be working there?
Regarding detailed planning: Do the experts (structural engineer, construction manager) already know how to handle the specifics? Will the construction manager spend enough time supervising the workers? In my opinion, what you save in planning, you end up paying for during execution. I would rather invest more in planning.
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