ᐅ Reinforced concrete columns at the corners of the bay window

Created on: 19 May 2017 16:00
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bluminger
Hello,

On the ground floor, the structural engineer has planned reinforced concrete columns in the (inner) corners of the bay window. Both the energy consultant and the shell builder have never seen anything like this before. Is this necessary? Has anyone else encountered this?

We don’t like the mixing of materials (aerated concrete versus reinforced concrete with insulation).

Thank you in advance!
bluminger20 May 2017 10:05
Hello,

@Mycraft, the supports are supposedly there to prevent the ceiling from sagging.

@11ant, the supports are planned slightly differently than you marked them (see attachment).

Technical shell construction floor plan with supports and dimension lines
bluminger20 May 2017 10:09
Hello @Curly,

thank you for your reply. It’s interesting that someone else has something like that. As far as I know, no steel beam is planned in the ground floor ceiling in our case so far.
Mycraft20 May 2017 10:18
bluminger schrieb:
Avoiding sagging of the ceiling.

So, a slim beam ceiling with minimal steel reinforcement...
bluminger20 May 2017 10:27
Mycraft schrieb:
So then, a shallow beam slab with minimal reinforcement...

Well, so far there has been a lot of steel used everywhere, both in the concrete slab under the basement and in the exterior basement walls, which our shell builder found remarkable. I’m not sure if we’ve already received the reinforcement plan for the ceiling above the ground floor, but I assume there will be a lot of steel there as well. That’s why we’re questioning it—the energy consultant said that with sufficient reinforcement in the ceiling, steel support columns could be omitted.
11ant20 May 2017 14:18
bluminger schrieb:
supposedly, the supports are there to prevent the ceiling from sagging.

Not supposedly, that is correct. For this purpose, they are placed exactly where they should be; it would be more difficult to provide thermal insulation at the outer corners. Therefore, neither the shell builder nor the energy consultant should be surprised about this. The office dog understood it immediately :-)
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ares8320 May 2017 16:04
We have this in at least one place as well. It was necessary next to the 4cm (1.6 inch) thicker ceiling due to structural requirements.