ᐅ Is a T30 fire-rated door between the house (utility room) and garage not permitted in Brandenburg?

Created on: 2 May 2017 13:52
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sauerpeter
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sauerpeter
2 May 2017 13:52
Hello everyone,

The confirmation of receipt for our building application includes the following statement:

“The T-30 fire-rated door between the utility room and the garage is not allowed. If the door remains, the garage will trigger setback clearance requirements, which must be legally secured. The necessary changes must be made and submitted accordingly.”

Does anyone know about this? For context, it is a boundary garage, and all regulations according to the building code have been met. Our construction company is not familiar with this issue, and they currently have a building application for another boundary garage with access to the house, where there are no such conditions.

When I asked, the case handler referred to §8. However, I cannot find anything like this there, not even close.

Can someone help us? Is it common for one case handler to handle this differently from another? They are supposed to follow laws and regulations.
andimann2 May 2017 14:33
Hello,

what exactly is the problem?
sauerpeter schrieb:
"The T-30 door between the utility room and the garage is not permitted. If the door remains, the garage triggers setback requirements that must be legally secured. The necessary changes must be made accordingly and submitted."

Are they complaining because there is a door there at all, or just because it’s a T-30 door?

If the building authority continues to be inflexible: remove the door from the building permit / planning permission plans, but already include the door lintel in the working drawings for the later installation of a door.

Best regards,

Andreas
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sauerpeter
2 May 2017 15:53
andimann schrieb:
Hello,

what exactly is the issue?



Are they complaining because there is a door, or because it is "only" a T-30 fire door?

If the building authority remains inflexible: remove the door from the building permit plans, but already plan the lintel for the later installation of a door in the construction drawings.

Best regards,

Andreas

Hello Andreas,

the issue is that any door, regardless of the type, is not permitted. She said that as soon as a door connects the house to the garage, it counts as a single building. However, there must be two separate buildings.

The idea with the lintel is good, but then after moving in and final inspection, having to break everything open again to install the door? I’m not sure if there is also a random inspection by the building authority where this could be discovered. Would that then theoretically need to be reported as well?
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Nordlys
2 May 2017 19:47
Gray is all theory, and building authorities have enough on their desks... unless someone reports it. Karsten
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Bieber0815
3 May 2017 07:33
In Saxony-Anhalt, such a door is permitted. I have no experience regarding Brandenburg.
andimann3 May 2017 09:43
Hello,

if this
sauerpeter schrieb:
She said that as soon as a door leads from the house to the garage, it counts as a single building. But there have to be two separate buildings.

is really the issue, it’s not only about the door but probably mainly because you want to build the garage as part of the house. If the garage doesn’t have its own wall facing the house, it’s not separate and therefore considered part of the house. Maybe plan a separate wall facing the house? It doesn’t have to be thick.

Best regards,

Andreas