Hello fellow home builders,
We are currently planning the electrical installation for our new build, including LAN and telephone connections. I have already read a lot but haven’t found a satisfactory answer for our exact situation online. Your assessment would be very helpful:
We have a utility room in the basement where, naturally, the phone line from the telecom provider enters. If I understand correctly, a telecom standard telephone outlet (TAE socket) is always installed there? And the line belongs to the telecom provider up to that point?
We want to install the network wiring in the utility room, but the router is planned to be located on the ground floor. We have a spot where we are quite sure there will be Wi-Fi coverage where it’s needed. So we planned to install a power outlet and four LAN ports there. One port would bring the signal from the TAE socket in the basement to the router, and three would go back down to the patch panel/switch. Essentially, I would prefer to run a cable from the telephone outlet to the patch panel and then up to the router.
My main question is: Is this possible? Can a network cable carry the two-wire DSL signal, and if so, which adapters would I need? How should the two wires be connected to the patch panel?
Or is our electrician right in saying that we need an (additional) TAE socket where the router will be? According to him, everything else would be complicated and require a custom cable... We would actually like to avoid having a TAE socket on the ground floor, both for aesthetic reasons and flexibility (maybe the router will be moved at some point).
Thanks for your help and experiences...
Good luck, Björn
We are currently planning the electrical installation for our new build, including LAN and telephone connections. I have already read a lot but haven’t found a satisfactory answer for our exact situation online. Your assessment would be very helpful:
We have a utility room in the basement where, naturally, the phone line from the telecom provider enters. If I understand correctly, a telecom standard telephone outlet (TAE socket) is always installed there? And the line belongs to the telecom provider up to that point?
We want to install the network wiring in the utility room, but the router is planned to be located on the ground floor. We have a spot where we are quite sure there will be Wi-Fi coverage where it’s needed. So we planned to install a power outlet and four LAN ports there. One port would bring the signal from the TAE socket in the basement to the router, and three would go back down to the patch panel/switch. Essentially, I would prefer to run a cable from the telephone outlet to the patch panel and then up to the router.
My main question is: Is this possible? Can a network cable carry the two-wire DSL signal, and if so, which adapters would I need? How should the two wires be connected to the patch panel?
Or is our electrician right in saying that we need an (additional) TAE socket where the router will be? According to him, everything else would be complicated and require a custom cable... We would actually like to avoid having a TAE socket on the ground floor, both for aesthetic reasons and flexibility (maybe the router will be moved at some point).
Thanks for your help and experiences...
Good luck, Björn
Well, with a DSL plan, you automatically get an (unlimited) flat rate, at least for calls to the German landline network. For this reason, my wife and I have no or limited free minutes on our mobile phones, since 1.5-hour calls over the landline do make a difference. Apart from that, all our friends have a landline connection, and the prices for international calls are also cheaper than using a mobile phone...
77.willo Telephone cable? What do you want to use it for?
I would run the technician's line into the office via the patch panel, as suggested. Please remember to ensure there are enough outlets from the patch panel in the office.
And an access point costing about $30 is more than sufficient for a typical household. Why would you spend $150 on one?
I would run the technician's line into the office via the patch panel, as suggested. Please remember to ensure there are enough outlets from the patch panel in the office.
And an access point costing about $30 is more than sufficient for a typical household. Why would you spend $150 on one?
There is a helpful video from the telecom provider that explains this in a way that is easy to understand for non-experts. The fiber optic cable enters the utility room. There, you will find a termination box and a fiber optic modem. From the modem, in our case, a cable runs to the office for the router. I connect the phones and the fax to it. I plug the router into the wall socket. The internet works via Wi-Fi; since the office is centrally located in the bungalow, all rooms plus the terrace should receive the signal, especially because there are no reinforced concrete walls. That’s it. We leave the TV out of this; it runs via satellite. Therefore, you don’t need network sockets in every room either. That’s how I’m having it done.
Nordlys schrieb:
We are leaving the TV out of the equation since it uses satellite. Therefore, network sockets are not needed in every room. I see it differently from many others here. If you are building new, a proper wired LAN infrastructure should be planned. Of course, it ultimately depends on personal preference and needs, but without fixed cabling you limit your options for the future—for example, fast streaming from a NAS device. Also, in the foreseeable future, TV will no longer be delivered (only) via satellite...
Sascha aus H26 Feb 2017 12:57I would like to add:
My TV is already connected via LAN, as 4K streaming over Wi-Fi is reaching its limits.
The future will not bring smaller data volumes; quite the opposite. Just take a look at the standard hard drives installed in regular consumer PCs and how their capacities have steadily increased over the years.
To manage these large amounts of data, we need bandwidth. Therefore, I can only recommend that everyone plans to install LAN connections at all points where you intend to use devices.
My TV is already connected via LAN, as 4K streaming over Wi-Fi is reaching its limits.
The future will not bring smaller data volumes; quite the opposite. Just take a look at the standard hard drives installed in regular consumer PCs and how their capacities have steadily increased over the years.
To manage these large amounts of data, we need bandwidth. Therefore, I can only recommend that everyone plans to install LAN connections at all points where you intend to use devices.
In our house, the utility connection is also located in a dark room in the corner, while the office is in a completely different corner.
In addition to the LAN cabling, we are currently leaning towards installing a telephone cable in two locations in the house (kitchen + office).
If I were to place the router, for example, in the office and connect it via the telephone cable, I could connect the LAN cable running back to the utility room at the LAN port and then use a patch panel there to supply the main house network via LAN.
This is basically exactly what 11ant has already explained.
However, it doesn’t sound entirely optimal yet.
Another option would be to keep the router in the utility room, provide LAN to all rooms, and set up a WLAN access point where needed.
Are there now phones that can connect via WLAN, or would I still need a telephone cable from the router to the phone’s location?
In addition to the LAN cabling, we are currently leaning towards installing a telephone cable in two locations in the house (kitchen + office).
If I were to place the router, for example, in the office and connect it via the telephone cable, I could connect the LAN cable running back to the utility room at the LAN port and then use a patch panel there to supply the main house network via LAN.
This is basically exactly what 11ant has already explained.
However, it doesn’t sound entirely optimal yet.
Another option would be to keep the router in the utility room, provide LAN to all rooms, and set up a WLAN access point where needed.
Are there now phones that can connect via WLAN, or would I still need a telephone cable from the router to the phone’s location?
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