ᐅ Timber frame construction: which company is reliable?

11ant schrieb:
I can’t quite follow this: “explanations come later, which don’t match at all” reads to me more like “you’ll need to provide more details before I understand,” rather than “I didn’t want your explanations.” Now I get it


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Please, please don’t add more!
I didn’t ask for any explanation, but you keep getting lost in your nonsense, others point it out to you, and you respond with contradictions.

Whatever... we can now expect your final word again – I’m out!

Best regards, Yvonne

Grym schrieb:
The most commonly built house in Germany is the Flair 113, and with correspondingly minimal specifications, it also costs accordingly little. The thinnest approved base slab without waterproof concrete, concrete roof, interior walls made of aerated concrete, roof trusses, non-coated windows, cheapest ceramic tiles, radiators, 20-Euro (approx. $22) tiles, no mechanical ventilation system, no external blinds, cheapest shutters, 6 power outlets in the kitchen, cheapest exterior plaster which turns green after a decade… wonderful. The low price doesn’t come from the standard house type itself, but from the cheap materials. And whether the waterproofing and so on are properly installed or done on the cheap, more than one person has already had their doubts.

This is a very condescending statement that disqualifies anyone who has to watch their budget during construction. More than half of all houses in Schleswig-Holstein (SH) have non-coated windows, radiators are not a bad thing. Toilets from Ideal Standard are perfectly fine. External blinds and roller shutters—I don’t know anyone here who buys those, and I don’t know of any new builds with mechanical ventilation systems, not just ours. Nearly all houses in SH are made of aerated concrete unless they are wooden constructions. Functional and reasonably good quality tiles can be found for 20 Euro (approx. $22). There is nothing to criticize about the Flair 113 if you’re okay with a basic house. It’s livable, it doesn’t leave you cold, complies with the 2016 Energy Saving Ordinance, and doesn’t force the builder into foreclosure because it’s affordable. Here in Ostholstein (OH) it costs 146,500 Euro (approx. $160,700) in an absolute base version. So with some extras, around 160,000 Euro (approx. $175,400). I’m not surprised by statements like the one quoted above that no one here dares to say, yes, this is exactly what we can do and that’s why we do it this way. Karsten

The reason no one here dares to say this is probably because people do a bit of research. Before you put something like this up, you should consider looking for a higher-quality used building.

And anyone still installing radiators in a new build in 2017 should be penalized. Also, aerated concrete is simply not suitable for interior walls due to poor sound insulation; it doesn’t matter if others do it that way. Building completely without external blinds or roller shutters, in my opinion, violates current regulations (summer heat protection). Next, are you going to tell us that textured wallpaper is a contemporary and modern form of wall design? Sorry, but for that you don’t need to build new—you’re better off with a used property, which can often be of significantly higher quality.

In the end, you get what you pay for. These “cookie-cutter” houses are not cheap because they are standard designs, but mainly because low-cost suppliers dominate the market for these types of houses—from the foundation slab to the roof.

Oh Grym, anyone familiar with your posts knows that with your statement about Flair113, you are embarrassing yourself once again.

How do you figure?

In the green section and here, your floor plans were discussed very often, and your resistance to advice stood out even more than the roof of the Flair.