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Karlstraße1 Apr 2017 07:59Good morning,
we plan to build on a south-facing slope. The plot offers an unobstructed long-distance view. Here is a design from the architect, which is however too large/too expensive (600,000 €) and therefore needs to be scaled down. I would like to hear your general opinion about it. Note: There is space in the bedroom upstairs to also place a toddler or baby bed, which will probably be necessary at first.
Size of the plot: 850 sqm (9,150 sq ft) on a slope
Number of floors: Basement, ground floor, attic
Roof type: Gable roof
Style: modern, simple "barn house"
Orientation: South (plans are oriented to the north)
Number of occupants, age: 2 x 30 years old, two toddlers
Room requirements on ground and upper floors
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: about 1 night per month on average
Open or closed architecture: very open and modern desired
Number of seats at dining table: 8 with kitchen island, as we like to cook and sit with friends
Fireplace, small loggia at the bedroom upstairs, and carport desired
Planning by: architectural firm
What do you especially like? Cozy seating area and the openness created by the high ceiling in the ground floor, the solution in the bedroom to have a phenomenal view and separate the dressing area from the bedroom, the seat window in the living room
What do you not like? We are unsure about the exterior view. It is supposed to be plastered, but possibly fully gray or partly clad with wood.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 600,000 € including everything (except the plot, which is ours)
Personal budget limit for house, including fittings: 500,000 €
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump or simply gas
The house will be made smaller by removing the corridor above in the living room, making the house about 1.5 m (5 feet) narrower. In the basement, the entrance vestibule will be cut off and the terrace will no longer be on the basement but directly on the earth.
My questions to you:
Do you have further ideas for savings concerning the floor plan?
Any general ideas about the floor plan type, what would you change?
The picture shows the long-distance view from the neighbor's property.
we plan to build on a south-facing slope. The plot offers an unobstructed long-distance view. Here is a design from the architect, which is however too large/too expensive (600,000 €) and therefore needs to be scaled down. I would like to hear your general opinion about it. Note: There is space in the bedroom upstairs to also place a toddler or baby bed, which will probably be necessary at first.
Size of the plot: 850 sqm (9,150 sq ft) on a slope
Number of floors: Basement, ground floor, attic
Roof type: Gable roof
Style: modern, simple "barn house"
Orientation: South (plans are oriented to the north)
Number of occupants, age: 2 x 30 years old, two toddlers
Room requirements on ground and upper floors
Office: home office
Guest stays per year: about 1 night per month on average
Open or closed architecture: very open and modern desired
Number of seats at dining table: 8 with kitchen island, as we like to cook and sit with friends
Fireplace, small loggia at the bedroom upstairs, and carport desired
Planning by: architectural firm
What do you especially like? Cozy seating area and the openness created by the high ceiling in the ground floor, the solution in the bedroom to have a phenomenal view and separate the dressing area from the bedroom, the seat window in the living room
What do you not like? We are unsure about the exterior view. It is supposed to be plastered, but possibly fully gray or partly clad with wood.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: 600,000 € including everything (except the plot, which is ours)
Personal budget limit for house, including fittings: 500,000 €
Preferred heating system: geothermal heat pump or simply gas
The house will be made smaller by removing the corridor above in the living room, making the house about 1.5 m (5 feet) narrower. In the basement, the entrance vestibule will be cut off and the terrace will no longer be on the basement but directly on the earth.
My questions to you:
Do you have further ideas for savings concerning the floor plan?
Any general ideas about the floor plan type, what would you change?
The picture shows the long-distance view from the neighbor's property.
K
Karlstraße1 Apr 2017 12:34Sure, from bottom to top
I don’t see the point in simply opening a pressure relief valve and cutting construction costs until the budget fits.
Skipping the entrance foyer: so where would you enter then—through the study or the area marked as the bathroom? Omitting the hallway: which one (?)
Having toddlers located miles away from the parents’ bedroom; when they grow older, they might want to share the loggia; the bathroom is on a floor where neither the parents nor the children sleep. The utility room, in my opinion, is positioned completely "backwards": to me, this is a stylish, livable view, but not a (also) practical house (except that the long distances keep you fit).
With the mentioned changes, the floor plans serve more as a guide for understanding the elevation drawing but are less useful for visualizing the room layout.
That’s a problem: with such a constructivist design, this is a key aspect and not suitable to be decided later. Does the rhythm of three meters thirty-five (3.35m (11 feet)) have any relevance?
Furthermore: the difference between plastered and gray wood cladding probably matters more than whether to leave out the entrance foyer (and upstairs hallway) or not.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Skipping the entrance foyer: so where would you enter then—through the study or the area marked as the bathroom? Omitting the hallway: which one (?)
Having toddlers located miles away from the parents’ bedroom; when they grow older, they might want to share the loggia; the bathroom is on a floor where neither the parents nor the children sleep. The utility room, in my opinion, is positioned completely "backwards": to me, this is a stylish, livable view, but not a (also) practical house (except that the long distances keep you fit).
With the mentioned changes, the floor plans serve more as a guide for understanding the elevation drawing but are less useful for visualizing the room layout.
Karlstraße schrieb:
Regarding the exterior view, we are not so sure—we’re still undecided here.
That’s a problem: with such a constructivist design, this is a key aspect and not suitable to be decided later. Does the rhythm of three meters thirty-five (3.35m (11 feet)) have any relevance?
Furthermore: the difference between plastered and gray wood cladding probably matters more than whether to leave out the entrance foyer (and upstairs hallway) or not.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
K
Karlstraße27 Jun 2017 20:07Hello everyone,
here is an update on the house plans. The attic now includes only a mezzanine for playing and relaxing for the children and us, with a view. The floor plan has been reduced, and in total we have 920m3 (32,500 ft3) including the double carport, partly due to the high open ceilings.
Ideas, suggestions, and comments are very welcome!!
here is an update on the house plans. The attic now includes only a mezzanine for playing and relaxing for the children and us, with a view. The floor plan has been reduced, and in total we have 920m3 (32,500 ft3) including the double carport, partly due to the high open ceilings.
Ideas, suggestions, and comments are very welcome!!
Aha. It still wouldn’t be my choice, but it now looks clearly better designed.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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