Development Plan / Restrictions none, neighboring buildings
Plot size 882m² (9489 ft²)
Slope slight south-facing slope, about 1.5m (5 feet) drop over 34m (112 feet) length towards the south
Floor area ratio none
Plot ratio none
Building lines and boundaries none
Edge development yes, garage
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2 full stories, ground floor clear height 2.70m (8.9 feet), upper floor clear height 2.50m (8.2 feet)
Roof type gable roof 28°
Style
Orientation east / west
Maximum heights / limits
Additional requirements
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type gable roof, modern interpretation of a Jura-style house
Basement, stories slab on grade, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages 4 people: M 42, F 35, F 4, F 3
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor ground floor 100m² (1076 ft²), upper floor 100m² (1076 ft²)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest bedrooms per year 1-2
Open or closed architecture open
Traditional or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, cooking island open kitchen with half island
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace no
Music / stereo wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport large garage 7m x 8m (23 ft x 26 ft)
Vegetable garden, greenhouse vegetable garden
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided:
Bedroom facing north/east as it is the coolest room in the house and we like to wake up with sunrise; children’s rooms preferably separated from the bedroom; flush interior doors with 5mm (0.2 inch) aluminum frames; ground floor parquet flooring, upper floor vinyl/design flooring; bathroom tiles with wood look; the open space in the hallway on the upper floor should be a mix of a small second living room and play area for the children; circulation pump; controlled mechanical ventilation with humidity recovery; wood/aluminum windows
House Design
Planner: my 5 cents
-planner from a construction company
-architect
-do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why? The west side, because we have an unobstructed view to the west over fields and forest
What do you dislike? Why? So far nothing
Cost estimate by architect/planner: around €430,000 excluding ancillary construction costs, including slab on grade
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €480,000 including ancillary construction costs (excluding kitchen and garden)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump or geothermal with baskets
If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
-could you do without: external venetian blinds, wood/aluminum windows
-could you not do without: the flush-mounted doors
Why did the design end up this way?
It evolved from many previous drafts and matured over time
Plot size 882m² (9489 ft²)
Slope slight south-facing slope, about 1.5m (5 feet) drop over 34m (112 feet) length towards the south
Floor area ratio none
Plot ratio none
Building lines and boundaries none
Edge development yes, garage
Number of parking spaces 2
Number of floors 2 full stories, ground floor clear height 2.70m (8.9 feet), upper floor clear height 2.50m (8.2 feet)
Roof type gable roof 28°
Style
Orientation east / west
Maximum heights / limits
Additional requirements
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type gable roof, modern interpretation of a Jura-style house
Basement, stories slab on grade, 2 full stories
Number of occupants, ages 4 people: M 42, F 35, F 4, F 3
Space requirements ground floor, upper floor ground floor 100m² (1076 ft²), upper floor 100m² (1076 ft²)
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest bedrooms per year 1-2
Open or closed architecture open
Traditional or modern construction modern
Open kitchen, cooking island open kitchen with half island
Number of dining seats 8
Fireplace no
Music / stereo wall yes
Balcony, roof terrace no
Garage, carport large garage 7m x 8m (23 ft x 26 ft)
Vegetable garden, greenhouse vegetable garden
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are desired or avoided:
Bedroom facing north/east as it is the coolest room in the house and we like to wake up with sunrise; children’s rooms preferably separated from the bedroom; flush interior doors with 5mm (0.2 inch) aluminum frames; ground floor parquet flooring, upper floor vinyl/design flooring; bathroom tiles with wood look; the open space in the hallway on the upper floor should be a mix of a small second living room and play area for the children; circulation pump; controlled mechanical ventilation with humidity recovery; wood/aluminum windows
House Design
Planner: my 5 cents
-planner from a construction company
-architect
-do-it-yourself
What do you like most? Why? The west side, because we have an unobstructed view to the west over fields and forest
What do you dislike? Why? So far nothing
Cost estimate by architect/planner: around €430,000 excluding ancillary construction costs, including slab on grade
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: €480,000 including ancillary construction costs (excluding kitchen and garden)
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump or geothermal with baskets
If you had to give up something, which details / expansions
-could you do without: external venetian blinds, wood/aluminum windows
-could you not do without: the flush-mounted doors
Why did the design end up this way?
It evolved from many previous drafts and matured over time
My two cents. Reconsider the window design, because style shouldn’t compromise function.
Downstairs: Kitchen to living room, consider a dividing wall with a sliding door. That way it can be open, but doesn’t have to be. Open kitchens always need to be tidy, otherwise it looks like dust bunnies under the sofa...
Upstairs: Exchange the bathroom with the small bedroom (Nord KZ), then you can access the utility room through the bathroom. That works. The small bedroom has enough space in what is now the bathroom.
Downstairs, there is indeed a lack of wardrobe space; it’s almost only under the stairs now. It’s doable, but could probably be solved differently with a small compromise in the office. Karsten
Downstairs: Kitchen to living room, consider a dividing wall with a sliding door. That way it can be open, but doesn’t have to be. Open kitchens always need to be tidy, otherwise it looks like dust bunnies under the sofa...
Upstairs: Exchange the bathroom with the small bedroom (Nord KZ), then you can access the utility room through the bathroom. That works. The small bedroom has enough space in what is now the bathroom.
Downstairs, there is indeed a lack of wardrobe space; it’s almost only under the stairs now. It’s doable, but could probably be solved differently with a small compromise in the office. Karsten
KingSong schrieb:
I never said I was an architect....and yes, I spent the entire night working on it, and honestly, I don’t even understand why I’m getting so much criticism here... Have I done something wrong to anyone?Don’t take it as criticism, but as well-intended advice.
More on this once your new draft is ready.
Best regards in brief
Here, (ambitious) amateurs discuss floor plans created by others like themselves. There is nothing wrong with that. It is unlikely that anyone could enforce the idea of discussing only professional work here. Especially since the original poster (OP) does not claim to present professional work. So why criticize that the plan was created within one day?
I believe you, @ypg, have also (multiple times?) suggested starting with pen and paper and a sketch. Creating a plan using electronic tools within 24 hours hardly seems like a big deal, does it?
I believe you, @ypg, have also (multiple times?) suggested starting with pen and paper and a sketch. Creating a plan using electronic tools within 24 hours hardly seems like a big deal, does it?
I am also looking forward to the new designs. My first impression was that they are quite large; they could probably be shortened by about half a meter (1.6 feet) without losing much functionality.
After reading the comments about the orientation/west-facing view, I took another look at the ground floor layout and no longer understand why you are not considering the view in the living area. It seems you want to place the sofa in front of the window, meaning you will always be sitting with your back to the beautiful view. I find that a bit unfortunate...
After reading the comments about the orientation/west-facing view, I took another look at the ground floor layout and no longer understand why you are not considering the view in the living area. It seems you want to place the sofa in front of the window, meaning you will always be sitting with your back to the beautiful view. I find that a bit unfortunate...
Alex85 schrieb:
Here, (ambitious) amateurs are discussing floor plans created by similar amateurs. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s hardly realistic to expect that only professional work will be discussed here. Especially since the original poster does not even claim to be demonstrating professional work. So why criticize that the plan was created in one day?
I believe you, @ypg, have also suggested (more than once?) starting with pencil and paper and a sketch. Creating a plan with electronic tools within 24 hours shouldn’t be a big deal, right?Errors in a draft can be identified just as well in a pencil-and-paper plan. The difference is that mistakes can be corrected quickly by erasing. Using software takes more time because, as a layperson, you keep adjusting various factors by a few centimeters (inches). After several hours, when you think you’re finished, you are less willing to make changes. That’s the crux of the problem.
Criticism then feels even tougher.
How many weeks did the amateur planner spend on their "finished" plan?
Either quick sketches are made, or work is done over several weeks. If a client starts to like something early on as a basis for further ideas, but this is then fundamentally dismissed or criticized here, several days of work feel wasted.
Take the example of stairs: if you always assume incorrect or uncommon dimensions, you might have to redesign everything.
So, you should always consider your work as a sketch for the architect or planner.
In this case, you don’t want to build a standard production house. So where is the journey going? To the architect or a construction supervisor who hires an architect.
Quick-shot plans generally contain many mistakes because the main focus is no longer a good design.
Best regards, Yvonne
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