Dear Forum,
I have read several articles on this topic and gained some understanding, but it is still not entirely clear for our situation. I’m a complete beginner regarding this subject and now need to keep an eye on our interior contractor, who is handling everything for us (starting with the quote). Since I want to understand the services to be commissioned, I kindly ask for a plausible and, if possible, clearly explained answer with minimal technical jargon. Please excuse my perhaps very basic way of expressing myself!
Here is the background: we are building a single-family house with a ground floor, a finished attic, and an uninsulated loft on a concrete slab foundation. We want a satellite system with five connections (living room, 2 kids’ rooms, office, bedroom) as well as LAN wiring for the mentioned rooms.
First, about the LAN wiring: it was offered to install the LAN distribution panel and the router in the utility/technology room. From there, the individual rooms will presumably be wired. The offer includes cable installation, including connectors (which I understand as cabling), plus 5x BTR NETCOM outlet sockets, Cat. 7, 1x RJ45, Up0 TN E-DATmod-2Up0.
I have read a bit and understand that a network switch is needed to manage connections, but I don’t see it included in the offer. Will that be an additional cost? Are other components necessary?
Regarding Wi-Fi, will I be able to get coverage throughout the entire house (wood frame construction) from the technology room, or will I need a range extender? I have also read about access points; how do they work if I want Wi-Fi in both the living room and upstairs?
What about the telephone? No wall outlets were planned for it; it still needs to be installed somewhere. Will a normal cordless phone like a Gigaset TECT be enough, and do I only need a power outlet to connect it to the router? Or is more equipment required?
Concerning the satellite system, I was offered a 5-connection rooftop satellite system with a multiswitch, 85 cm dish / LNB / centrally located in the loft.
As an extra item, the preparation of satellite coax cables in the loft and grounding from the loft to the technology room is offered.
The price for the satellite system seems quite high. Therefore, I would prefer to have only the preparation done and then contract the remaining work separately. What do I need, or how should I arrange this? Should I have an empty conduit installed from the loft to the technology room? How is the cabling to the individual rooms done? Does it run from the technology room to the rooms or directly from the satellite dish in the loft?
Since LAN is already planned for the same rooms, is the satellite cable different (coaxial)?
Thank you very much in advance for your help and feedback. It’s incredible what challenges you have to deal with when building a house, which you never knew existed before.
Best regards,
Charly
I have read several articles on this topic and gained some understanding, but it is still not entirely clear for our situation. I’m a complete beginner regarding this subject and now need to keep an eye on our interior contractor, who is handling everything for us (starting with the quote). Since I want to understand the services to be commissioned, I kindly ask for a plausible and, if possible, clearly explained answer with minimal technical jargon. Please excuse my perhaps very basic way of expressing myself!
Here is the background: we are building a single-family house with a ground floor, a finished attic, and an uninsulated loft on a concrete slab foundation. We want a satellite system with five connections (living room, 2 kids’ rooms, office, bedroom) as well as LAN wiring for the mentioned rooms.
First, about the LAN wiring: it was offered to install the LAN distribution panel and the router in the utility/technology room. From there, the individual rooms will presumably be wired. The offer includes cable installation, including connectors (which I understand as cabling), plus 5x BTR NETCOM outlet sockets, Cat. 7, 1x RJ45, Up0 TN E-DATmod-2Up0.
I have read a bit and understand that a network switch is needed to manage connections, but I don’t see it included in the offer. Will that be an additional cost? Are other components necessary?
Regarding Wi-Fi, will I be able to get coverage throughout the entire house (wood frame construction) from the technology room, or will I need a range extender? I have also read about access points; how do they work if I want Wi-Fi in both the living room and upstairs?
What about the telephone? No wall outlets were planned for it; it still needs to be installed somewhere. Will a normal cordless phone like a Gigaset TECT be enough, and do I only need a power outlet to connect it to the router? Or is more equipment required?
Concerning the satellite system, I was offered a 5-connection rooftop satellite system with a multiswitch, 85 cm dish / LNB / centrally located in the loft.
As an extra item, the preparation of satellite coax cables in the loft and grounding from the loft to the technology room is offered.
The price for the satellite system seems quite high. Therefore, I would prefer to have only the preparation done and then contract the remaining work separately. What do I need, or how should I arrange this? Should I have an empty conduit installed from the loft to the technology room? How is the cabling to the individual rooms done? Does it run from the technology room to the rooms or directly from the satellite dish in the loft?
Since LAN is already planned for the same rooms, is the satellite cable different (coaxial)?
Thank you very much in advance for your help and feedback. It’s incredible what challenges you have to deal with when building a house, which you never knew existed before.
Best regards,
Charly
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Deliverer28 Feb 2017 09:12Explanation:
The usual (and sensible) approach for LAN wiring in the technical room is as follows:
All the loose cable ends (coming from the wall outlets) are terminated on a patch panel. This panel is basically a LAN socket with multiple ports (8, 16, 24...). The panel itself does not process the signal; it only serves for neat cable management and easier maintenance.
From this panel, short patch cables run to a switch located nearby (usually with slightly more ports than the panel). The switch actually manages the network by connecting all the ports only when data needs to be transmitted.
This completes the LAN setup. What is still needed is the Internet feed. This typically comes from a modem (often combined with a router, Wi-Fi, telephone system, etc.) provided by the service provider. This modem is connected to the switch, which distributes the Internet connection to the stations in the network as required. It is important to ensure that the external Internet supply enters the utility room (or technical room); otherwise, an additional cable will need to be installed.
As mentioned above, the Wi-Fi is often already integrated into the provider’s device and can be used directly. If not, a Wi-Fi router is needed. This router can be connected either to the switch in the utility room or to a socket at a central location in the house. For a large house, an additional access point is recommended. This device is also connected to the LAN and extends a separate Wi-Fi zone (for the basement, garden, etc.). Alternatively, but much slower, wireless repeaters can be used.
The usual (and sensible) approach for LAN wiring in the technical room is as follows:
All the loose cable ends (coming from the wall outlets) are terminated on a patch panel. This panel is basically a LAN socket with multiple ports (8, 16, 24...). The panel itself does not process the signal; it only serves for neat cable management and easier maintenance.
From this panel, short patch cables run to a switch located nearby (usually with slightly more ports than the panel). The switch actually manages the network by connecting all the ports only when data needs to be transmitted.
This completes the LAN setup. What is still needed is the Internet feed. This typically comes from a modem (often combined with a router, Wi-Fi, telephone system, etc.) provided by the service provider. This modem is connected to the switch, which distributes the Internet connection to the stations in the network as required. It is important to ensure that the external Internet supply enters the utility room (or technical room); otherwise, an additional cable will need to be installed.
As mentioned above, the Wi-Fi is often already integrated into the provider’s device and can be used directly. If not, a Wi-Fi router is needed. This router can be connected either to the switch in the utility room or to a socket at a central location in the house. For a large house, an additional access point is recommended. This device is also connected to the LAN and extends a separate Wi-Fi zone (for the basement, garden, etc.). Alternatively, but much slower, wireless repeaters can be used.
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Bieber081528 Feb 2017 09:59Deliverer schrieb:
All the loose cable ends (coming from the outlets) are terminated on a patch panel, meaning they are connected. Exactly right. In houses with only five connections, often plugs are attached to the open cable ends in the utility room, so a patch panel is omitted. The rest is as you described.
I would always install double outlets, resulting in 10 cable ends in the utility room. These would then be terminated on a patch panel.
You need to consider in advance exactly where the patch panel and router will be located in the utility room. Ideally, a network cabinet (10" or 19", wall-mounted cabinet) is used for these devices. Both the patch panel and switch each require one rack unit (RU) of height inside.
We purchased the cabinet and patch panel ourselves and brought them to the site for the electrician. He installed the cabinet and patch panel and terminated the cables.
As mentioned before, I would always recommend double gang boxes, and on the other side, there should always be a patch panel in my opinion.
@CharlyC42: Have you assessed your needs for how many outlets you require? For example, in an office with a network printer, network-attached storage, and a PC, one outlet would not be enough. I see it the same way for the TV area.
PS: When installing an access point, always also consider the power outlet nearby.
@CharlyC42: Have you assessed your needs for how many outlets you require? For example, in an office with a network printer, network-attached storage, and a PC, one outlet would not be enough. I see it the same way for the TV area.
PS: When installing an access point, always also consider the power outlet nearby.
hanse987 schrieb:
Network printer, network hard drive If possible, I would place them in the utility room in a house without a basement. This saves wall outlets and keeps them out of the way.
If the printer is a laser, all the "toxic" emissions are also eliminated.
Otherwise, as others have said, conduct a needs assessment to determine if five outlets are really enough.
For satellite connections, for example, I would always plan for double outlets. Most devices today have twin receivers (recording on one channel while watching another).
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