Hello everyone,
I would really appreciate your help with my situation!
Plot: 605 m² (6500 ft²), width 18.7 m (61 ft) – length about 32.x m (105.x ft)
Current house size: width 8.09 m (27 ft) – length 11.84 m (39 ft) (length and width can still be changed)
At the moment, I’m really struggling with the layout of the ground floor. I’m quite unsure about the arrangement of the rooms. Everything is still open to change.
The living room should be relatively large and face west, the kitchen definitely needs to be closed off, and there should be a pantry, a study, and a utility/technical room. The layout of these rooms is still completely flexible. What do you think of this current floor plan? The double garage will be built right on the property line, so there will still be a passage about 3 to 4 m (10 to 13 ft) wide at the bottom leading to the backyard.
In the southwest corner of the living room, there are currently two fixed large windows designed to replace a conservatory. The upper door is meant to be a terrace door leading out to the backyard.
All doors could also be sliding doors, although that might only make sense for the pantry or for the entrance to the living room from the kitchen/hallway.
An advantage of placing the pantry here is that it wouldn’t require a window, since the double garage is blocking the exterior wall.
Once I have the ground floor roughly finalized, I can focus on the upper floor, otherwise it’s driving me crazy. I think that the arrangement of the halfway staircase landing will make it somewhat easier to divide the upper floor into four reasonably sized rooms.
I would be very grateful for any further tips!!
Best regards,
ravosch
I would really appreciate your help with my situation!
Plot: 605 m² (6500 ft²), width 18.7 m (61 ft) – length about 32.x m (105.x ft)
Current house size: width 8.09 m (27 ft) – length 11.84 m (39 ft) (length and width can still be changed)
At the moment, I’m really struggling with the layout of the ground floor. I’m quite unsure about the arrangement of the rooms. Everything is still open to change.
The living room should be relatively large and face west, the kitchen definitely needs to be closed off, and there should be a pantry, a study, and a utility/technical room. The layout of these rooms is still completely flexible. What do you think of this current floor plan? The double garage will be built right on the property line, so there will still be a passage about 3 to 4 m (10 to 13 ft) wide at the bottom leading to the backyard.
In the southwest corner of the living room, there are currently two fixed large windows designed to replace a conservatory. The upper door is meant to be a terrace door leading out to the backyard.
All doors could also be sliding doors, although that might only make sense for the pantry or for the entrance to the living room from the kitchen/hallway.
An advantage of placing the pantry here is that it wouldn’t require a window, since the double garage is blocking the exterior wall.
Once I have the ground floor roughly finalized, I can focus on the upper floor, otherwise it’s driving me crazy. I think that the arrangement of the halfway staircase landing will make it somewhat easier to divide the upper floor into four reasonably sized rooms.
I would be very grateful for any further tips!!
Best regards,
ravosch
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j.bautsch15 Feb 2017 08:21I would also remove the "speis" (pantry), and I wonder if it really makes sense to give the children two rooms that are so different in size. This will likely cause conflict sooner or later. Also, an 18m² (194 sq ft) bathroom? Is that necessary?
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A common grid dimension in timber frame construction is 62.5 cm (24.6 inches). In this system, the structural timber in the core of the exterior walls is usually centered at the intersections of the grid lines, so that the stud thickness plus twice the total thickness of the external cladding results in a typical calculated “overhang” of the exterior lengths by a whole number of grid units. In your case, the exterior walls probably align with the outer edges of the grid lines, 12 units + 2 x 29.5 cm (11.6 inches) = 8.09 m (26.5 feet). A floor plan measuring 9.34 x 9.965 m (30.6 x 32.7 feet) would have a similar total area “closer to square” within the same grid.
Bathroom 18 sqm (194 sq ft)
Such a size can quickly occur when a design with a gable roof without a knee wall is scaled “1:1” to a 2 m (6.6 ft) knee wall height. With two sinks, a corner bathtub plus shower, bidet, and enough space so that mom won’t get bumped while putting on mascara, this floor area can easily accumulate in a “without knee wall” layout.
Another typical approach by less experienced amateur planners is to first allocate reasonable individual room sizes from the total floor area. Often, this results in leaving too much space for the bathroom, while a pantry, lacking a sense of practical dimensions, simply steals some corner from the home office ;-)
But that’s exactly why forums like this exist—to allow everyone to stumble along at first and learn as they go.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
A common grid dimension in timber frame construction is 62.5 cm (24.6 inches). In this system, the structural timber in the core of the exterior walls is usually centered at the intersections of the grid lines, so that the stud thickness plus twice the total thickness of the external cladding results in a typical calculated “overhang” of the exterior lengths by a whole number of grid units. In your case, the exterior walls probably align with the outer edges of the grid lines, 12 units + 2 x 29.5 cm (11.6 inches) = 8.09 m (26.5 feet). A floor plan measuring 9.34 x 9.965 m (30.6 x 32.7 feet) would have a similar total area “closer to square” within the same grid.
Bathroom 18 sqm (194 sq ft)
Such a size can quickly occur when a design with a gable roof without a knee wall is scaled “1:1” to a 2 m (6.6 ft) knee wall height. With two sinks, a corner bathtub plus shower, bidet, and enough space so that mom won’t get bumped while putting on mascara, this floor area can easily accumulate in a “without knee wall” layout.
Another typical approach by less experienced amateur planners is to first allocate reasonable individual room sizes from the total floor area. Often, this results in leaving too much space for the bathroom, while a pantry, lacking a sense of practical dimensions, simply steals some corner from the home office ;-)
But that’s exactly why forums like this exist—to allow everyone to stumble along at first and learn as they go.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Happy Sunday everyone,
I think I need to completely rethink the architect’s plan.
Of course, I can’t produce a perfect drawing quickly, but I have based it on the house dimensions plus the wall thicknesses. For now, I just want to know if you think this approach could work.
The guest toilet would need to be sized differently so that a coat closet fits better. In my opinion, the living room feels a bit more open, and I no longer have a long corridor.
Please don’t be upset with the drawing—I hope you can at least get an idea of it.
Best regards,
ravosch
I think I need to completely rethink the architect’s plan.
Of course, I can’t produce a perfect drawing quickly, but I have based it on the house dimensions plus the wall thicknesses. For now, I just want to know if you think this approach could work.
The guest toilet would need to be sized differently so that a coat closet fits better. In my opinion, the living room feels a bit more open, and I no longer have a long corridor.
Please don’t be upset with the drawing—I hope you can at least get an idea of it.
Best regards,
ravosch
Why do you keep trying to access the house from the east side instead of the north side facing the courtyard?
I don't like this floor plan; it doesn't feel comfortable.
The living room is mainly a passage and traffic area, even a hub because of the staircase. It’s unlikely to feel cozy there. Privacy is almost non-existent.
If you don’t want any view into the south-facing window, place the kitchen there and use blinds. Put the living and dining areas along the entire west side. Choose a straight or half-turn staircase.
Also, having a kitchen directly accessible near the utility room can save you from needing a pantry.
Best regards, Yvonne
I don't like this floor plan; it doesn't feel comfortable.
The living room is mainly a passage and traffic area, even a hub because of the staircase. It’s unlikely to feel cozy there. Privacy is almost non-existent.
If you don’t want any view into the south-facing window, place the kitchen there and use blinds. Put the living and dining areas along the entire west side. Choose a straight or half-turn staircase.
Also, having a kitchen directly accessible near the utility room can save you from needing a pantry.
Best regards, Yvonne
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