ᐅ Building permit applications are becoming increasingly complicated!
Created on: 28 Jan 2017 16:19
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Hi, our building permit / planning permission was actually supposed to arrive this week.
Now our construction company has told us that the current plans are not sufficient, and the local authority requires precise information about traffic areas, parking spaces, plant species, etc.
I took a photo of the development plan where the relevant factors causing the delay are listed.
The last section seems to be particularly important.
We sat down and sketched out what the construction company needs.
We also visited a nursery today to get advice (which was fun).
As a result, we decided to plant many hornbeams as the boundary / garden fence.
The local authority wants to know the exact species.
But regarding the parking space, access to the house, etc., we need to do something for water infiltration; for now, we simply wrote “permeable surface.” I hope that will be enough for them!?
Do you have any ideas or plans on how to design the front garden so that it meets the requirements?
Somehow I feel like the front garden needs to please the local authority more than me 😡
I originally wanted to create a Mediterranean style with two palm trees on either side of the path to the front door 🙁
What are location-appropriate woody plants? And what does 25% ground cover mean?
If my calculations are correct, the 25% for the front garden is about 14.5m² (156 sq ft).
Does that mean I need to green this 14.5m² (156 sq ft) continuously, or can I have 10m² (108 sq ft) here, 2m² (22 sq ft) there, and 2.5m² (27 sq ft) somewhere else?
Otherwise, I won’t be able to move around in the front garden at all.
I definitely find it overwhelming what they want to know before construction even starts. I thought I could decide all this step by step once the house is built.
Thanks for your help!
Best regards
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Now our construction company has told us that the current plans are not sufficient, and the local authority requires precise information about traffic areas, parking spaces, plant species, etc.
I took a photo of the development plan where the relevant factors causing the delay are listed.
The last section seems to be particularly important.
We sat down and sketched out what the construction company needs.
We also visited a nursery today to get advice (which was fun).
As a result, we decided to plant many hornbeams as the boundary / garden fence.
The local authority wants to know the exact species.
But regarding the parking space, access to the house, etc., we need to do something for water infiltration; for now, we simply wrote “permeable surface.” I hope that will be enough for them!?
Do you have any ideas or plans on how to design the front garden so that it meets the requirements?
Somehow I feel like the front garden needs to please the local authority more than me 😡
I originally wanted to create a Mediterranean style with two palm trees on either side of the path to the front door 🙁
What are location-appropriate woody plants? And what does 25% ground cover mean?
If my calculations are correct, the 25% for the front garden is about 14.5m² (156 sq ft).
Does that mean I need to green this 14.5m² (156 sq ft) continuously, or can I have 10m² (108 sq ft) here, 2m² (22 sq ft) there, and 2.5m² (27 sq ft) somewhere else?
Otherwise, I won’t be able to move around in the front garden at all.
I definitely find it overwhelming what they want to know before construction even starts. I thought I could decide all this step by step once the house is built.
Thanks for your help!
Best regards
I don’t think your sketch meets the requirement of a "qualified open space plan." What does your planner say about it?
Native woody plants. That probably excludes Mediterranean palms. But you should ask a landscape gardener for advice; maybe there is something similar-looking but native. Here, you can request a plant list from the local authority.
My interpretation: The opposite of ground cover would be "sporadic" here.
This all sounds like an effort to prevent front yards from being sterile (rock gardens, etc.), careless/cheap (just grass without other planting, gravel, asphalt), or given low priority (submitted directly with the plan). Ultimately, it’s about maintaining the quality of the neighborhood. It’s frustrating when the established design guidelines don’t fit your own concept. We have what feels like a whole book of such regulations here and sometimes we raise an eyebrow, but ultimately it ensures consistent quality across the development. Of course, that comes at the expense of individuality — although you can still be creative within the rules.
What are everyone’s excuses for never having read the development plan? Just out of curiosity? 😀
305er schrieb:
What are site-appropriate woody plants?
Native woody plants. That probably excludes Mediterranean palms. But you should ask a landscape gardener for advice; maybe there is something similar-looking but native. Here, you can request a plant list from the local authority.
305er schrieb:
And what does 25% ground cover mean?
My interpretation: The opposite of ground cover would be "sporadic" here.
This all sounds like an effort to prevent front yards from being sterile (rock gardens, etc.), careless/cheap (just grass without other planting, gravel, asphalt), or given low priority (submitted directly with the plan). Ultimately, it’s about maintaining the quality of the neighborhood. It’s frustrating when the established design guidelines don’t fit your own concept. We have what feels like a whole book of such regulations here and sometimes we raise an eyebrow, but ultimately it ensures consistent quality across the development. Of course, that comes at the expense of individuality — although you can still be creative within the rules.
What are everyone’s excuses for never having read the development plan? Just out of curiosity? 😀
Hi, the sketch is for my construction company, which will then create the detailed plans.
I understand that palm trees are not native. However, there must be plants that look Mediterranean but are still native.
Our nursery said that "native" is somewhat subjective, as some plants are native throughout Europe while others are only native to northern Germany or the southern regions. So it’s quite difficult.
If I have to plant 25% of the area all at once, there won't be any driveway or path left to the front door... they must be crazy!
This is a small village—technically a district, but so remote and separate that it could count as a village. If we were in the middle of a city, I could understand the requirements, but this is completely rural, surrounded by woods and fields.
I understand that palm trees are not native. However, there must be plants that look Mediterranean but are still native.
Our nursery said that "native" is somewhat subjective, as some plants are native throughout Europe while others are only native to northern Germany or the southern regions. So it’s quite difficult.
If I have to plant 25% of the area all at once, there won't be any driveway or path left to the front door... they must be crazy!
This is a small village—technically a district, but so remote and separate that it could count as a village. If we were in the middle of a city, I could understand the requirements, but this is completely rural, surrounded by woods and fields.
Now I’ll tell you something from the perspective of a public official, something that you usually aren’t allowed to say at the office... Submit what is required, it will get stamped approved, proceed with the construction, and let things develop naturally. Don’t provoke with a concrete front yard, but since you’re likely quite broke after building and costs have increased, the high-quality landscaping will require some patience. People will understand—you won’t be pushed into financial ruin by anyone. And then time passes...
Hello,
I wanted to suggest something similar. Give them a plan, and they’ll be happy; whether they actually plant it that way afterward is another matter. For example, you might have planned hazel bushes but then suddenly develop an allergy to them...
You will probably have to keep palms in large pots anyway and bring them indoors during winter. They most likely won’t survive outside unless your building site has a very warm microclimate.
Best regards,
Andreas
Nordlys schrieb:
And then time passes....
I wanted to suggest something similar. Give them a plan, and they’ll be happy; whether they actually plant it that way afterward is another matter. For example, you might have planned hazel bushes but then suddenly develop an allergy to them...
You will probably have to keep palms in large pots anyway and bring them indoors during winter. They most likely won’t survive outside unless your building site has a very warm microclimate.
Best regards,
Andreas
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