ᐅ New construction of an urban villa with a granny flat and double garage
Created on: 23 Dec 2016 16:15
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google80
Hello dear house building forum community,
First of all, a big compliment to the forum and its users. We look forward to your opinions on our building project (main house with exterior plaster + granny flat (to be rented out) + double garage) with the following details:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 808 m² (9749 sq ft)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: 0.3 (+25 %)
Floor space index
Building window, building line and boundary: Yes, see site plan (blue line)
Edge development: Yes (garage 9 x 6 m (30 x 20 ft))
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: minimum 25 degrees
Architectural style: none specified
Orientation: none specified
Maximum height/limits: 9 m (30 ft)
Additional requirements: No ground sealing within 3 m (10 ft) around marked oak trees (3 pieces)
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Urban villa with hipped roof
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, age: Three (including tenant), between 20 and 40 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Granny flat 45 m² (484 sq ft), main house ground and upper floor each 90 m² (969 sq ft)
Office: Will be used as guest room
Number of overnight guests per year: 12-24
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern style: Modern urban villa
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes, with kitchen island and three glass components (one fixed and two sliding, to allow a closed kitchen if needed)
Number of dining seats: In kitchen and living room (similar to granny flat)
Fireplace: Prepared for installation
Music/surround system: Teufel 5.1 system
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Lockable double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: Utility garden
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain features are desired or omitted
House design
Planning source: Own design, adapted from architect’s drawing
What do you particularly like? Why?
Since two full floors are not permitted (which would be preferred), a granny flat was included as a cost-effective solution compared to used properties, with tax advantages and additional retirement income (I already own rental properties). Furthermore, I appreciate the thoughtful layout of the rooms, although the window in the utility room might still change (intentionally a skylight, to allow space for utility connections).
What do you like less? Why?
The roof without an overhang above the garage (due to the maximum permitted building width – adding this would reduce living space and affect all room layouts).
The staircase in the main house, although every option (see https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-unbedingt-vor-Beitrag-Erstellung-lesen.11714/) has been considered, and we currently prefer the existing version.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 290,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 320,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Gas
If you had to compromise, which details/features could you do without?
- Could do without: Fireplace, three-part glass elements in the kitchen, high-quality outdoor landscaping (budget should be focused on the building itself)
- Cannot do without: Garage with roof and granny flat
Why has the design ended up like this?
Due to the protected trees on site, the orientation of the plot, ideas from model home parks, and the desired natural light in every room. The granny flat intentionally has no windows facing our plot so the tenant is kept at a respectful distance despite adjacent buildings. Therefore, it also has a separate access.
Jpgs added by moderation, ypg
First of all, a big compliment to the forum and its users. We look forward to your opinions on our building project (main house with exterior plaster + granny flat (to be rented out) + double garage) with the following details:
Development plan/restrictions
Plot size: 808 m² (9749 sq ft)
Slope: No
Floor area ratio: 0.3 (+25 %)
Floor space index
Building window, building line and boundary: Yes, see site plan (blue line)
Edge development: Yes (garage 9 x 6 m (30 x 20 ft))
Number of parking spaces:
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof type: minimum 25 degrees
Architectural style: none specified
Orientation: none specified
Maximum height/limits: 9 m (30 ft)
Additional requirements: No ground sealing within 3 m (10 ft) around marked oak trees (3 pieces)
Client requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: Urban villa with hipped roof
Basement, floors: No basement
Number of occupants, age: Three (including tenant), between 20 and 40 years old
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Granny flat 45 m² (484 sq ft), main house ground and upper floor each 90 m² (969 sq ft)
Office: Will be used as guest room
Number of overnight guests per year: 12-24
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern style: Modern urban villa
Open kitchen, kitchen island: Yes, with kitchen island and three glass components (one fixed and two sliding, to allow a closed kitchen if needed)
Number of dining seats: In kitchen and living room (similar to granny flat)
Fireplace: Prepared for installation
Music/surround system: Teufel 5.1 system
Balcony, roof terrace: No
Garage, carport: Lockable double garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: Utility garden
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why certain features are desired or omitted
House design
Planning source: Own design, adapted from architect’s drawing
What do you particularly like? Why?
Since two full floors are not permitted (which would be preferred), a granny flat was included as a cost-effective solution compared to used properties, with tax advantages and additional retirement income (I already own rental properties). Furthermore, I appreciate the thoughtful layout of the rooms, although the window in the utility room might still change (intentionally a skylight, to allow space for utility connections).
What do you like less? Why?
The roof without an overhang above the garage (due to the maximum permitted building width – adding this would reduce living space and affect all room layouts).
The staircase in the main house, although every option (see https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-unbedingt-vor-Beitrag-Erstellung-lesen.11714/) has been considered, and we currently prefer the existing version.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 290,000 EUR
Personal price limit for the house, including fixtures: 320,000 EUR
Preferred heating technology: Gas
If you had to compromise, which details/features could you do without?
- Could do without: Fireplace, three-part glass elements in the kitchen, high-quality outdoor landscaping (budget should be focused on the building itself)
- Cannot do without: Garage with roof and granny flat
Why has the design ended up like this?
Due to the protected trees on site, the orientation of the plot, ideas from model home parks, and the desired natural light in every room. The granny flat intentionally has no windows facing our plot so the tenant is kept at a respectful distance despite adjacent buildings. Therefore, it also has a separate access.
Jpgs added by moderation, ypg
google80 schrieb:
As already mentioned, I have experience with investment properties and this is not my first time renting out. You haven’t mentioned any tax benefits, so I assume you are not familiar with them. What are the construction costs?Just because no one mentions it, you shouldn’t assume that. We ourselves also have a basement apartment, which is even financed with two KfW loans.
Just because I don’t mention the cost of the basement apartment and the reasons behind it, others are commenting on this without having any knowledge. Is this going to turn into a fundamental debate where I, as the original poster, have to justify myself every time?
I will gladly explain the premises and conditions later and also discuss the functionality related to our property, why the rooms were arranged this way, and the reasoning behind it.
I will gladly explain the premises and conditions later and also discuss the functionality related to our property, why the rooms were arranged this way, and the reasoning behind it.
Well, the granny flat will cost about the same as anywhere else. As a rule of thumb, the price per square meter is around 1500-1800 (approx. 140-170 per square foot) for a standard build, plus the cost of two entrance doors, a larger roof, and so on.
But people here have already given you some advice; the floor plan will work. However, it hits some problems with individual rooms, and the issue is that you don’t want to accept that.
But people here have already given you some advice; the floor plan will work. However, it hits some problems with individual rooms, and the issue is that you don’t want to accept that.
It's amazing how facts are twisted. I have thanked for the suggestions and taken them into account. Since I started this thread, I have been thinking about possible improvements. The price per square meter of my granny flat is lower (an offer with a revised scope of work is available), but some others here refuse to accept that.
google80 schrieb:
@Bellanina:
Where in Germany are you building, and is your construction company also from that region?In North Rhine-Westphalia, Euskirchen district. And yes, our construction company is a local business.
Bellanina schrieb:
In NRW, Kreis Euskirchen. Und ja, unser BU ist ein regionales Unternehmen.
If I were building there, I would probably pay more as well. However, since I’m not building in that area, it’s understandable that our prices differ significantly in some cases. Still, thank you for your contribution.
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