Hi,
we are now in the final phase of planning and are facing the issue of how to best arrange ceiling outlets and recessed ceiling lights. I would like to get some opinions on this. Since recessed ceiling lights, especially when installed directly in the concrete ceiling, are quite expensive with our general contractor (90€ in a suspended ceiling, 180€ directly in the concrete ceiling), I have tried to use them sparingly, but still enough to ensure sufficient brightness.
The ground floor:
The biggest question here is the lighting of the kitchen island. My idea is to install a dropped ceiling directly above the island and use 6 recessed lights along with indirect lighting around the perimeter.

The upper floor:
we are now in the final phase of planning and are facing the issue of how to best arrange ceiling outlets and recessed ceiling lights. I would like to get some opinions on this. Since recessed ceiling lights, especially when installed directly in the concrete ceiling, are quite expensive with our general contractor (90€ in a suspended ceiling, 180€ directly in the concrete ceiling), I have tried to use them sparingly, but still enough to ensure sufficient brightness.
The ground floor:
The biggest question here is the lighting of the kitchen island. My idea is to install a dropped ceiling directly above the island and use 6 recessed lights along with indirect lighting around the perimeter.
The upper floor:
Phew, I have to agree with the previous posters here. Child 2 is pretty close to a complete disaster. A roof terrace, when you have a nice garden, also seems pointless to me. At least I don’t know anyone who would rather sit there than in the garden, but of course exceptions always prove the rule.
Regarding the lighting designer: I think it’s a pretty nice idea and you can definitely get something out of it, but for me, €3500 is just too expensive. There is added value, of course, but it doesn’t feel like enough to me.
Regarding the lighting designer: I think it’s a pretty nice idea and you can definitely get something out of it, but for me, €3500 is just too expensive. There is added value, of course, but it doesn’t feel like enough to me.
I think you can find this cheaper as well. In principle, I believe the costs (in the hundredth range of the total expenses, so you have to see it in relation) are well invested for someone like that. I’ve seen too many houses that were very well designed, but the lighting simply didn’t fit, and then so much is lost, and retrofitting is always difficult in such cases.
K
Knallkörper24 Oct 2016 11:54Attached are our recessed lights in the ground floor. I had to sketch this quickly at the time because the concrete ceiling needed to be ordered. For me, these recessed lights serve as the basic lighting; the goal is to ensure sufficient brightness throughout the space. In the end, there are probably a few too many, but the choice of bulbs can still make a significant difference. We also have circuit groupings and dimmers. I wouldn’t have hired a planner for this, as it’s simply about basic lighting. Some fundamental principles should be considered, for example, avoiding casting shadows on yourself.
I could imagine consulting a lighting specialist when it comes to “mood lighting.” We are currently considering what a lighting concept for the living area could look like, including wall, floor, and ceiling lamps, how to illuminate the stair steps, and so on.

I could imagine consulting a lighting specialist when it comes to “mood lighting.” We are currently considering what a lighting concept for the living area could look like, including wall, floor, and ceiling lamps, how to illuminate the stair steps, and so on.
Knallkörper schrieb:
Attached are our recessed lights on the ground floor. I had to sketch this quickly back then because the concrete ceiling needed to be ordered. For me, these recessed lights are basically the main lighting; the whole area should be sufficiently bright. In the end, there are probably a few too many, but you can still adjust a lot by choosing the right bulbs..........Hi,
scary... so many recessed lights!
From a "technical perspective," you’re right – goal achieved, light everywhere!
From an "emotional perspective," though, it’s scary, it can’t get much worse!
So it might be worth investing a few thousand in a lighting consultant or interior designer (lighting and furniture go hand in hand)…
Best regards, Barossi
K
Knallkörper24 Oct 2016 15:16Barossi schrieb:
Creepy... all those spotlights!There aren’t actually that many, only about 85 to 90 of them in total. But seriously: I find the very small, white spotlight housings pleasantly unobtrusive. In our old house, we had halogen spots arranged in a grid every 80cm (31.5 inches) in many rooms—that’s even more—and that didn’t bother me at all. They’re simply not the right lighting for every situation, so additional lamps are needed.
Recently, we added an automatic switch in the upstairs hallway. When there’s movement and it’s dark, the spots turn on dimmed (around 10% power); when you touch the switch, they go to full brightness. This also works with other lamps, but with many spotlights, the “light distribution” is excellent.
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