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bauherr8519 Sep 2016 11:20Hello everyone,
My partner and I are currently starting to plan our house, which is why I joined this forum. We have purchased a plot in a new development area. However, the zoning plan does not allow flat roofs, even though that is our preferred design. All attempts to convince the building authority and the municipal council have failed. The zoning plan permits all roof types with a pitch between 15° and 45°. The wall heights measured from the base to the eaves are 5.5 m (18 feet) for gable and hip roofs, and 7.5 m (25 feet) for shed roofs. To me, this seems somewhat illogical. Since the plot is almost flat, with a 5.5 m (18 feet) wall height, it’s not possible to have two full stories without sloping ceilings. Ideally, I don’t want the roof to be visible from the outside. With a shed roof, two full stories are easily possible because of the 7.5 m (25 feet) wall height.
My question is:
What do you think about planning a staggered shed roof with a 15° pitch and a wall height up to the eaves of 6 m (20 feet) — allowing for two full stories — and then extending the exterior wall up to 7.5 m (25 feet)? This way, from the outside, it would visually look like a flat roof building, but inside there would be a shed roof, visible only from above. Do you think it would be possible to get such a design approved? Is it allowed to extend the walls beyond the eaves?
Thank you very much for your feedback.
Best regards,
bauherr85
My partner and I are currently starting to plan our house, which is why I joined this forum. We have purchased a plot in a new development area. However, the zoning plan does not allow flat roofs, even though that is our preferred design. All attempts to convince the building authority and the municipal council have failed. The zoning plan permits all roof types with a pitch between 15° and 45°. The wall heights measured from the base to the eaves are 5.5 m (18 feet) for gable and hip roofs, and 7.5 m (25 feet) for shed roofs. To me, this seems somewhat illogical. Since the plot is almost flat, with a 5.5 m (18 feet) wall height, it’s not possible to have two full stories without sloping ceilings. Ideally, I don’t want the roof to be visible from the outside. With a shed roof, two full stories are easily possible because of the 7.5 m (25 feet) wall height.
My question is:
What do you think about planning a staggered shed roof with a 15° pitch and a wall height up to the eaves of 6 m (20 feet) — allowing for two full stories — and then extending the exterior wall up to 7.5 m (25 feet)? This way, from the outside, it would visually look like a flat roof building, but inside there would be a shed roof, visible only from above. Do you think it would be possible to get such a design approved? Is it allowed to extend the walls beyond the eaves?
Thank you very much for your feedback.
Best regards,
bauherr85
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Knallkörper19 Sep 2016 14:34With an average house width and a roof pitch of 15°, the height difference from one eave to the other is between 2 and 3 meters (6.5 and 10 feet). Such a tall, unstructured "extension" above the regular walls really looks unusual. And: The eave point is defined as the intersection between the vertical exterior surface and the roof covering. I think you might be overcomplicating things there.
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bauherr8519 Sep 2016 15:18That will be a nice swimming pool up there. I think you’ll have significant issues with waterproofing. And I doubt the local authorities will easily approve it.
Why don’t you try a shed roof? The local authorities already have that on the plans anyway, so you could try to persuade them to accept a flatter design. I have a shed roof with a 6-degree pitch (about 10%), which is almost like a flat roof. You would just need to see if the local authorities are willing to approve a shed roof (which is generally permitted) with a lower slope.
Why don’t you try a shed roof? The local authorities already have that on the plans anyway, so you could try to persuade them to accept a flatter design. I have a shed roof with a 6-degree pitch (about 10%), which is almost like a flat roof. You would just need to see if the local authorities are willing to approve a shed roof (which is generally permitted) with a lower slope.
The drawing is absolutely amazing. Would you want to live in something like that?!
The reason why municipalities specify roof types is to create a uniform appearance within the neighborhood, for example. So, enclosing a shed roof like that is probably not what the designer intended.
Someone has to say it, and now it’s me: it’s not a smart idea to buy a plot of land where the desired building shape isn’t even allowed under the building permit / planning permission. SCNR *duckandcover*
The reason why municipalities specify roof types is to create a uniform appearance within the neighborhood, for example. So, enclosing a shed roof like that is probably not what the designer intended.
Someone has to say it, and now it’s me: it’s not a smart idea to buy a plot of land where the desired building shape isn’t even allowed under the building permit / planning permission. SCNR *duckandcover*
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