ᐅ External venetian blinds or roller shutters on the south side of the house?

Created on: 24 Aug 2016 21:31
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Grym
We will most likely install roller shutters on all sides except the south side. Only on the south side are we considering whether venetian blinds make sense. Here are our floor plans with the precisely aligned north arrow:

Floor plan of a multi-story house: living room, dining area, study, utility room, stairs, doors.

Floor plan of a house with bedrooms, bathroom, shower, dressing room, and utility room.


The eaves of the hipped roof (2 full stories) are planned to be 60cm (24 inches) deep. We plan to place a very large sun sail in front of the house, roughly 6x4m (also available in 7x5m or 5.6x5.6m – depending on the manufacturer). Here is a picture:

Floor plan of a living area with dark blue U-shaped sofa, dining table, doors, and dimensions.


The deepest corner of the sail would be the upper left corner. The sun sail would be deployed either only as needed or definitely only during the summer.

The reason for the venetian blinds is clear: when the weather is nice outside, you want some shading but not too much, as you don’t want to feel completely shut off from the good weather while inside. In our living/dining area, the two windows in the dining and kitchen areas can be fully opened since they are no longer directly exposed to the sun. In my opinion, the south-facing window in the dining area and the middle window from the sun sail should be protected, so that only the two roller shutters in the living area would be closed.

But actually, much more importantly in my opinion: if the weather is so nice that the sun is shining and it’s warm outside, then I go out under the sun sail to relax, grill, eat outside, etc. – in that case, I’m happy to lower ALL the roller shutters because I’m not inside. It’s different at work, where we also have a venetian blind. I can’t just go outside, sit under a sun shelter, and relax comfortably there. At work, I’m forced to be inside and appreciate the partial shading provided by the venetian blind.

I prefer roller shutters because you can fully close them. This is important for the children's rooms when the kids want to sleep. Our plot is also somewhat on a hill (about 100 meters (330 feet) above the city center). We are not right at the top, but still quite high up, and it’s windier and stronger here than downtown. Above a certain wind speed, the venetian blinds automatically go up, which is not ideal.

Above all, with our 6 windows and 3 of them having venetian blinds (which have two movement dimensions in contrast to roller shutters – up/down and horizontal/vertical), it can get really complex, so automation would need to be considered.

But my main points are:
- Depending on how the sun sail is used, 2 or 4 of the 6 windows can stay open, so plenty of light will come in anyway.
- If the weather is so nice outside, then you’re outside anyway, so partial shading doesn’t help me because I’m not inside.
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Grym
25 Aug 2016 18:34
So, the shutters should automatically close when the sun comes out, but go back up in windy conditions, for example.

Just as an example, we leave the house in the morning, the shutters close to protect the house from overheating. They also withstand the wind. When we return home in the afternoon, depending on the light needed, they go up again.

I also lower the venetian blinds, but at 10 a.m. a summer thunderstorm comes. A wind sensor gives the command to raise them. The storm is over by 11 a.m., and the sun shines strongly from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. Now they have to go down again.
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Sebastian79
25 Aug 2016 19:10
Yes, and? I don't have a wind sensor – but I do have a sun sensor.
The devices are guided along rails, so they can withstand a lot and are not exposed to the wind.

However, I can install one later.
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Alex85
25 Aug 2016 19:15
In theory. Have you ever sat in a reasonably modern office building where such smart technology has been standard for a while?
- Colleagues nearly have a heart attack when the external blinds start moving as if by ghostly hands.
- Bright sun, blinds down, and then they go up again on their own. Why? Maybe the wind, maybe... who knows. So you get up to adjust them manually.
- This could go on endlessly.

What happens when you want to step out through the patio door and the venetian blind automatically goes down? Or when you are outside and the blind lowers itself (each time due to sun position)?
I don’t know. Because of thoughts like these, I completely removed home automation from my planning. It costs a lot and I have yet to see any real added value. Just lots of theory and questionable practical use.
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Sebastian79
25 Aug 2016 19:23
Well, I don’t share that view, as this is not exactly rocket science.

I have sensors that prevent the roller blinds from closing when the terrace door handle is open.

No one gets confused because they only lower once at the appropriate light level and then stay in that position.

The buildings from our company also have automatic roller blinds – and no one has had a heart attack because of them...
AOLNCM26 Aug 2016 08:43
Alex85 schrieb:
What happens if you try to step out through the patio door and the venetian blind (raffstore) automatically closes? Or if you are outside and the venetian blind lowers automatically (each time due to the sun’s position)?

The venetian blind (raffstore) is suspended on at least two cables, depending on the window width.
Even if this situation occurs, there is still the option to lift the venetian blind from below within the guides and climb back inside.
Automation is not mandatory for venetian blinds. A sun sensor can be installed. A wind sensor is recommended.
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zod
26 Aug 2016 14:09
Grym schrieb:

I also lower the external blinds, but at 10 AM a summer thunderstorm is coming. The wind sensor gives the command to raise them. By 11 AM the storm is over, and the sun is shining hard from 11 AM to 4 PM. Now the blinds have to go down again.

Huh? So the wind sensor just gives the command to lower them again?