ᐅ Overwhelmed by Bathroom Tiling Options – Any Alternatives?
Created on: 17 Aug 2016 12:20
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Hello forum members,
In our new build, we have an 18 m² (193.75 sq ft) bathroom with a sloped ceiling and a 4.7 m² (50.6 sq ft) guest toilet. The main bathroom is planned to include a large walk-in shower measuring 1.20 x 1.00 m (3.9 x 3.3 ft), a stylish V&B bathtub, a double vanity, and an elegant toilet. The fittings for the shower and bathtub will be concealed-mounted.
The guest toilet will not have a bathtub and will only have a simple washbasin, but we want a slightly larger, attractive shower and a nice toilet as well.
We have received a quote from our general contractor’s preferred plumber. They want nearly 25,000 euros extra for the sanitary installation. Of this, 13,750 euros are for the “washbasin unit with mirror cabinet” in the main bathroom.
When I compare the largest material items in the overall quote with prices found online, I could save about 8,000 euros by purchasing the materials myself. For example:
V&B Squaro Edge 12 bathtub 190 x 90 cm (6.2 x 3 ft)
Installer’s quote: 1,655 euros (delivery only, plus installation)
Online price: 850 euros including shipping
The biggest discrepancies are with the individual parts of the Keuco “washbasin unit,” with price differences of over 100%.
Now I’m considering what to do. Ideally, I would decline the entire offer politely and source (almost) all parts myself and install them. Negotiation seems pointless since my idea of a fair price appears far from the plumber’s expectations.
So far, our own contribution to the whole house has been “only” laying all the flooring and doing all the tiling. If I install the sanitary fixtures myself, I wouldn’t have any scheduling conflicts with the general contractor. My plan is to have the GC’s plumber only make the connections at the correct positions. They can keep their standard fixtures. Then I would buy the bathtub, etc., at a better price and either install everything myself or hire another company for the installation.
Could this work? What should I consider regarding drywall work — is it done before or after the installation of the sanitary fixtures?
I would appreciate any suggestions or experience reports related to this kind of project.
In our new build, we have an 18 m² (193.75 sq ft) bathroom with a sloped ceiling and a 4.7 m² (50.6 sq ft) guest toilet. The main bathroom is planned to include a large walk-in shower measuring 1.20 x 1.00 m (3.9 x 3.3 ft), a stylish V&B bathtub, a double vanity, and an elegant toilet. The fittings for the shower and bathtub will be concealed-mounted.
The guest toilet will not have a bathtub and will only have a simple washbasin, but we want a slightly larger, attractive shower and a nice toilet as well.
We have received a quote from our general contractor’s preferred plumber. They want nearly 25,000 euros extra for the sanitary installation. Of this, 13,750 euros are for the “washbasin unit with mirror cabinet” in the main bathroom.
When I compare the largest material items in the overall quote with prices found online, I could save about 8,000 euros by purchasing the materials myself. For example:
V&B Squaro Edge 12 bathtub 190 x 90 cm (6.2 x 3 ft)
Installer’s quote: 1,655 euros (delivery only, plus installation)
Online price: 850 euros including shipping
The biggest discrepancies are with the individual parts of the Keuco “washbasin unit,” with price differences of over 100%.
Now I’m considering what to do. Ideally, I would decline the entire offer politely and source (almost) all parts myself and install them. Negotiation seems pointless since my idea of a fair price appears far from the plumber’s expectations.
So far, our own contribution to the whole house has been “only” laying all the flooring and doing all the tiling. If I install the sanitary fixtures myself, I wouldn’t have any scheduling conflicts with the general contractor. My plan is to have the GC’s plumber only make the connections at the correct positions. They can keep their standard fixtures. Then I would buy the bathtub, etc., at a better price and either install everything myself or hire another company for the installation.
Could this work? What should I consider regarding drywall work — is it done before or after the installation of the sanitary fixtures?
I would appreciate any suggestions or experience reports related to this kind of project.
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Sebastian7919 Aug 2016 12:15Bauexperte schrieb:
So yes – it also looks neater if the tiler is skilled But not in your example picture
Our base cabinet is hung on ordinary screws/anchors – just two of them, and the thing feels like it weighs 10 tons. In reality probably more like 50-70 kg (110-154 lbs), but it is quite heavy
Our tiler didn’t prepare anything – probably just all the holes for electrical outlets and plugs – according to him, he’s never made so many holes on a single build before
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Bauexperte19 Aug 2016 18:37S
Sebastian7919 Aug 2016 18:49Yes, crooked and uneven – not only the mounting holes but also the drain. Although it doesn’t really matter and won’t be visible later, you specifically emphasized that it should also look good.
When installing drywall or plasterboard on a stud wall, the fasteners need to be attached beforehand, and the tiler must be involved as well. In solid construction at this point, drilling and anchoring is sufficient, which is not only faster but also results in a neater and cleaner finish.
When installing drywall or plasterboard on a stud wall, the fasteners need to be attached beforehand, and the tiler must be involved as well. In solid construction at this point, drilling and anchoring is sufficient, which is not only faster but also results in a neater and cleaner finish.
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Bauexperte19 Aug 2016 23:03Good evening Sebastian,
There is nothing crooked or uneven about the cladding; your impression might be due to the camera angle. However, I’m too tired today to discuss with you the charming peculiarities of a renovation or how a cold/hot water pipe needs to adapt to the conditions of an older building. I was literally bent out of shape today; at least that’s how it feels.
Regards, Bauexperte
There is nothing crooked or uneven about the cladding; your impression might be due to the camera angle. However, I’m too tired today to discuss with you the charming peculiarities of a renovation or how a cold/hot water pipe needs to adapt to the conditions of an older building. I was literally bent out of shape today; at least that’s how it feels.
Regards, Bauexperte
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Sebastian7920 Aug 2016 07:06I didn’t say that the pre-wall installation is crooked or uneven – it’s the holes.