ᐅ Planning the Location of the House and Garage Within the Building Envelope *Preliminary Planning*
Created on: 9 Aug 2016 10:52
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Häuslebau3r
Hello everyone,
I have been following the forum for quite some time now and am gradually approaching the “house building” project step by step, trying to learn as much as possible in advance.
Thanks to the many experts here, this has truly been an enjoyable experience in the way the community contributes. (end of flattery mode) 🙂
As I already mentioned in my first major thread, we are currently working on preliminary planning and considering the house design and its orientation on the plot, even before our first meetings with potential builders.
Taking several factors into account regarding the plot, such as price and an undeveloped east-facing location (sloping gently down to the east), we found a micro-location that we really like. We weren’t able to get our ideal size, but with 770m² (8300 sq ft), I think it’s more than sufficient. The main advantage for us is that the land can be fully paid for from our own funds, so until construction starts in early 2018, we will continue saving equity and paying off any remaining debts.
Source: Excerpts from the development plan / self-created images
A building permit inquiry (building permit / planning permission) has already been submitted regarding the desired architectural style, and I have received approval to expand the building envelope up to 8 meters (26 feet) along the eastern boundary.
At the moment, we are leaning toward a rather classic city villa style (2 full floors with a hipped roof at 25° and a double garage).
Source: Weberhaus
Based on the budget we have personally set, we are initially planning without a basement. If it turns out to be feasible later on, we can still include it.
We have already visited model homes that appealed to us in terms of external design and even traveled from Bavaria to the Rhineland, and from there to Wuppertal for inspiration.
Right now, before the first planning meetings, we want to focus on finding the best possible orientation for the house and garage on the property, for example:
Source: Excerpts from the development plan
For me, one thing is already decided: the staircase, which I want to have exactly like this due to the fantastic light conditions. It captivated me at first sight.
Source: Weberhaus
Furthermore, we want to keep as much space as possible on the west and south sides to create what I consider an ideal sunny aspect and garden atmosphere.
This is also the tricky part, as the arrangement between house and garage is causing us some headaches.
Many questions arise, such as whether the garage should be placed in front of the house to free up more space on the south side, or rather beside the house (which would include a covered entrance area). A passage from the garage directly into the house is also under consideration. Or should the main entrance be on the west side instead, which might mean it would be uncovered?
Source for covered entrance: Weberhaus
I will post further key data throughout the thread as needed, in case I have forgotten anything important.
However, these points above need to be clarified first before we can continue planning the positioning of the dining, living, and kitchen areas, etc. (Of course, with a preference for south/west orientation).
I would appreciate any information and lively discussions.
Best regards, Andreas, and thank you in advance!
I have been following the forum for quite some time now and am gradually approaching the “house building” project step by step, trying to learn as much as possible in advance.
Thanks to the many experts here, this has truly been an enjoyable experience in the way the community contributes. (end of flattery mode) 🙂
As I already mentioned in my first major thread, we are currently working on preliminary planning and considering the house design and its orientation on the plot, even before our first meetings with potential builders.
Taking several factors into account regarding the plot, such as price and an undeveloped east-facing location (sloping gently down to the east), we found a micro-location that we really like. We weren’t able to get our ideal size, but with 770m² (8300 sq ft), I think it’s more than sufficient. The main advantage for us is that the land can be fully paid for from our own funds, so until construction starts in early 2018, we will continue saving equity and paying off any remaining debts.
Source: Excerpts from the development plan / self-created images
A building permit inquiry (building permit / planning permission) has already been submitted regarding the desired architectural style, and I have received approval to expand the building envelope up to 8 meters (26 feet) along the eastern boundary.
At the moment, we are leaning toward a rather classic city villa style (2 full floors with a hipped roof at 25° and a double garage).
Source: Weberhaus
Based on the budget we have personally set, we are initially planning without a basement. If it turns out to be feasible later on, we can still include it.
We have already visited model homes that appealed to us in terms of external design and even traveled from Bavaria to the Rhineland, and from there to Wuppertal for inspiration.
Right now, before the first planning meetings, we want to focus on finding the best possible orientation for the house and garage on the property, for example:
Source: Excerpts from the development plan
For me, one thing is already decided: the staircase, which I want to have exactly like this due to the fantastic light conditions. It captivated me at first sight.
Source: Weberhaus
Furthermore, we want to keep as much space as possible on the west and south sides to create what I consider an ideal sunny aspect and garden atmosphere.
This is also the tricky part, as the arrangement between house and garage is causing us some headaches.
Many questions arise, such as whether the garage should be placed in front of the house to free up more space on the south side, or rather beside the house (which would include a covered entrance area). A passage from the garage directly into the house is also under consideration. Or should the main entrance be on the west side instead, which might mean it would be uncovered?
Source for covered entrance: Weberhaus
I will post further key data throughout the thread as needed, in case I have forgotten anything important.
However, these points above need to be clarified first before we can continue planning the positioning of the dining, living, and kitchen areas, etc. (Of course, with a preference for south/west orientation).
I would appreciate any information and lively discussions.
Best regards, Andreas, and thank you in advance!
Häuslebau3r18 Aug 2016 09:50The idea of a 180 cm (71 inches) wide bed in the bedroom really shocks me, especially since our current waterbed measures 2.00 m x 2.20 m (6 ft 7 in x 7 ft 3 in).
I really need to sit down and rethink it again this evening. But extending the stairwell further toward the living room makes the whole layout even more angular.
(Jochen really doesn’t like that at all )
Jokes aside, Jochen, I don’t either.
I really need to sit down and rethink it again this evening. But extending the stairwell further toward the living room makes the whole layout even more angular.
(Jochen really doesn’t like that at all )
Jokes aside, Jochen, I don’t either.
Häuslebau3r18 Aug 2016 10:11kbt09 schrieb:
Are those the external dimensions for the waterbed? Then the room should be at least 360 cm (12 feet) wide and ideally 300 to 320 cm (10 to 10.5 feet) deep. Besides the bed and two small nightstands, there really shouldn’t be anything else in the room.I will definitely include that in the planning! Thanks.
External dimensions 2.15 m x 2.45 m (7.1 ft x 8 ft) due to the headboard.
@ all,
Would it maybe be possible, or another option, to partially build over the utility room on the ground floor at the upper floor as well? Similar to the step-down seen in the living room on the ground floor? This way, we could gain a few more square meters? (marked in red) + Removing the door to the bathroom to better use the dressing room.
Hope you understand what I mean
Another option would be to forego the WC on the upper floor and shift everything further to the west, placing the bathroom beneath the dressing room and one of the children’s bedrooms. *thinking*
But this will become clearer with the 3D program and the dimensionally adjusted walls.. Hm..
Häuslebau3r schrieb:
External dimensions 2.15 m x 2.45 m (7.1 ft x 8 ft) due to the headboard. Well, that immediately increases the room size for the bed... I would set the room width, meaning the wall where the bed stands, to a minimum of 375 cm (12.3 ft) and the room depth to at least 320 cm (10.5 ft), preferably 340 cm (11.2 ft)
= 12.75 m² (137 sq ft)
And now you can see the problems that arise from seemingly ideal line drawings.
Start planning with wall thicknesses included.
Use graph paper, accurately sketch the external dimensions once, make multiple copies, and then start drawing with a pencil.
Also, keep the costs in mind. I just read your statement about this in a financing thread. What is the maximum budget for the house?
... An architect would know that you can’t just place the staircase wherever you like, because the staircase position affects the width of the rooms. Therefore, ideally place the staircase in the center first, so that real rooms fit next to it. You can always move it later, even in the following year. That was a joke and meant as a reminder, ... Has the plot already been purchased?.??
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