Good evening!
I come from the Tübingen district and I am 27 years old. My wife and I have now received confirmation for our desired plot, which we will buy in the next few days. Now the planning for the actual house begins.
I am a complete beginner and have browsed this forum a bit, but it’s overwhelming. All the information drives me crazy and discourages me; I don’t even know where to start!
We don’t have a huge budget and want to build with a construction company such as Heinz von Heiden, Town & Country, or Scanhaus Marlow. Some kind of builder that is not the most expensive but still delivers good quality work, preferably solid construction. There are good and bad reviews about every builder online, so I won’t even ask here for recommendations, right?
What I have found out so far are the following hidden costs: (House only, no landscaping)
On top of the “turnkey price,” I have to calculate:
1. About 25,000€ (27,500 USD) additional construction costs
2. Kitchen
3. Lighting fixtures
4. Own work, usually: flooring/wall work + materials
5. Basically add about 20,000€ (22,000 USD) for selections to the stated “turnkey price” because the standard is often too basic
I need to pay attention to the construction description included with “turnkey”:
1. Is triple glazing included?
2. What standard is installed?
3. Heat pump, etc.?
4. What extras do I want + what does all that cost?
I would like to know now:
1. What is the best way to proceed? I want to schedule appointments with the companies mentioned above. How do I best prepare for meetings with these somewhat opaque builders?
2. What other hidden costs should I watch out for that I haven’t mentioned or don’t know yet?
3. What must the house absolutely have in terms of “equipment”/standard?
An example of how I calculate:
House standard turnkey: about 170,000€ (187,000 USD)
Selections: about 20,000€ (22,000 USD)
Additional construction costs: about 25,000€ (27,500 USD)
Flooring + wall materials: about 6,000€ (6,600 USD)
Kitchen: about 15,000€ (16,500 USD)
Lighting: about 3,000€ (3,300 USD)
Financial buffer: about 5,000€ (5,500 USD)
= 244,000€ (269,000 USD)
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? Do I need to add anything else, if yes, what?
I would really appreciate your help!
Best regards
I come from the Tübingen district and I am 27 years old. My wife and I have now received confirmation for our desired plot, which we will buy in the next few days. Now the planning for the actual house begins.
I am a complete beginner and have browsed this forum a bit, but it’s overwhelming. All the information drives me crazy and discourages me; I don’t even know where to start!
We don’t have a huge budget and want to build with a construction company such as Heinz von Heiden, Town & Country, or Scanhaus Marlow. Some kind of builder that is not the most expensive but still delivers good quality work, preferably solid construction. There are good and bad reviews about every builder online, so I won’t even ask here for recommendations, right?
What I have found out so far are the following hidden costs: (House only, no landscaping)
On top of the “turnkey price,” I have to calculate:
1. About 25,000€ (27,500 USD) additional construction costs
2. Kitchen
3. Lighting fixtures
4. Own work, usually: flooring/wall work + materials
5. Basically add about 20,000€ (22,000 USD) for selections to the stated “turnkey price” because the standard is often too basic
I need to pay attention to the construction description included with “turnkey”:
1. Is triple glazing included?
2. What standard is installed?
3. Heat pump, etc.?
4. What extras do I want + what does all that cost?
I would like to know now:
1. What is the best way to proceed? I want to schedule appointments with the companies mentioned above. How do I best prepare for meetings with these somewhat opaque builders?
2. What other hidden costs should I watch out for that I haven’t mentioned or don’t know yet?
3. What must the house absolutely have in terms of “equipment”/standard?
An example of how I calculate:
House standard turnkey: about 170,000€ (187,000 USD)
Selections: about 20,000€ (22,000 USD)
Additional construction costs: about 25,000€ (27,500 USD)
Flooring + wall materials: about 6,000€ (6,600 USD)
Kitchen: about 15,000€ (16,500 USD)
Lighting: about 3,000€ (3,300 USD)
Financial buffer: about 5,000€ (5,500 USD)
= 244,000€ (269,000 USD)
Is this correct? Am I missing anything? Do I need to add anything else, if yes, what?
I would really appreciate your help!
Best regards
S
Sebastian7912 Aug 2016 11:49We have a 10m² (108 sq ft) room for our master bedroom in a house of just under 240m² (2,583 sq ft). This was a deliberate choice, not a makeshift solution due to a lack of space.
It was planned very consciously. And of course, there is a double bed with enough space on both sides.
A 50" TV on the wall, nightstands on the left and right, and that’s it.
If you want to use the room as an ironing room at the same time, of course, it won’t be enough space, but saying that 10m² (108 sq ft) isn’t sufficient for sleeping is a bit strange.
It was planned very consciously. And of course, there is a double bed with enough space on both sides.
A 50" TV on the wall, nightstands on the left and right, and that’s it.
If you want to use the room as an ironing room at the same time, of course, it won’t be enough space, but saying that 10m² (108 sq ft) isn’t sufficient for sleeping is a bit strange.
blockhauspower12 Aug 2016 11:59Could you agree on using "children's room" or a similar term for the abbreviation of the nursery? The abbreviation "KZ" has somewhat negative connotations.
Best regards
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Peanuts7412 Aug 2016 12:28Sebastian79 schrieb:
We have a 10m² (108 sq ft) room as our master bedroom in a house just under 240m² (2,583 sq ft). It’s a very deliberate choice, not a makeshift solution due to lack of space...
Completely planned on purpose. And, of course, there’s a double bed with enough room on the left and right.
A 50" screen on the wall, nightstands on both sides, and that’s it.
If you want to use the room as an ironing room at the same time, of course that wouldn’t be enough space, but saying that 10m² (108 sq ft) is not sufficient for sleeping is a bit odd.But then you also have to mention that there is a walk-in closet with corresponding wardrobes somewhere else! Otherwise, you’d have to add that space requirement as well...
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Peanuts7412 Aug 2016 12:29blockhauspower schrieb:
Could you all agree on using "children’s room" or something similar instead of the abbreviation for the kids’ room? The abbreviation "KZ" has a somewhat negative connotation.
RegardsIt really doesn’t have to be that politically correct; everyone will understand that it means a children’s room!
S
Sebastian7912 Aug 2016 12:42Yes, I thought that made sense – I already stated what is included there.
If you need to have cabinets in there as well, then 10 m² (108 sq ft) is too small – it should definitely be at least 3 to 4 m² (32 to 43 sq ft) larger.
If you need to have cabinets in there as well, then 10 m² (108 sq ft) is too small – it should definitely be at least 3 to 4 m² (32 to 43 sq ft) larger.
I don’t want to tell anyone how to live, everyone has their own preferences, including me.
For me, the space in the bedroom would be too valuable—I’d rather use it elsewhere (for example, for a luxurious bathroom), but of course, that’s a personal choice.
Ironing in the utility room also has the advantage that I can just leave the stuff there. We are planning a combination utility room/guest bathroom on the upper floor, and as long as no guests need to use the bathroom, my ironing board will stay there. That way, I can quickly iron something if needed without having to set everything up every time. I find that practical, and I don’t want the ironing board cluttering the bedroom (meaning: at least I would always put it away after ironing).
When I iron, I don’t watch TV because I need to focus on the item I’m ironing, so I wouldn’t miss it. However, with today’s technology, I don’t see any problem watching TV in the utility room if I want to.
And just to make everyone here a little jealous: my mother-in-law does the ironing for me. I’m just an occasional ironer. With my workload, I have to outsource some tasks—otherwise, it wouldn’t be manageable. I’m very grateful for that.
For me, the space in the bedroom would be too valuable—I’d rather use it elsewhere (for example, for a luxurious bathroom), but of course, that’s a personal choice.
Ironing in the utility room also has the advantage that I can just leave the stuff there. We are planning a combination utility room/guest bathroom on the upper floor, and as long as no guests need to use the bathroom, my ironing board will stay there. That way, I can quickly iron something if needed without having to set everything up every time. I find that practical, and I don’t want the ironing board cluttering the bedroom (meaning: at least I would always put it away after ironing).
When I iron, I don’t watch TV because I need to focus on the item I’m ironing, so I wouldn’t miss it. However, with today’s technology, I don’t see any problem watching TV in the utility room if I want to.
And just to make everyone here a little jealous: my mother-in-law does the ironing for me. I’m just an occasional ironer. With my workload, I have to outsource some tasks—otherwise, it wouldn’t be manageable. I’m very grateful for that.
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