Hello, we are still in the planning phase, and I would like to benefit from the experiences of those who have already been through this.
A very important point in our considerations is the kitchen. Almost all the design ideas and floor plans we find tend to feature rather small kitchens, open-plan, sometimes under 10 sqm (100 sq ft), with the dining area in the living room naturally being sufficiently large.
Personally, I’m not a fan of the open kitchen concept. I want a closed kitchen. Also, I want the option to have a dining table in the kitchen that can seat four people. The dining corner doesn’t have to be very large. However, I want the possibility to have breakfast in the kitchen so that I don’t end up with a messy living room every morning after eating with two small children.
But a kitchen of 10 sqm (100 sq ft) probably won’t be enough for this.
If you have a dining table in your kitchen, how big is it, and how large is your entire kitchen? I’m also happy to be inspired by photos.
Or am I overestimating the importance of being able to eat in the kitchen?
A very important point in our considerations is the kitchen. Almost all the design ideas and floor plans we find tend to feature rather small kitchens, open-plan, sometimes under 10 sqm (100 sq ft), with the dining area in the living room naturally being sufficiently large.
Personally, I’m not a fan of the open kitchen concept. I want a closed kitchen. Also, I want the option to have a dining table in the kitchen that can seat four people. The dining corner doesn’t have to be very large. However, I want the possibility to have breakfast in the kitchen so that I don’t end up with a messy living room every morning after eating with two small children.
But a kitchen of 10 sqm (100 sq ft) probably won’t be enough for this.
If you have a dining table in your kitchen, how big is it, and how large is your entire kitchen? I’m also happy to be inspired by photos.
Or am I overestimating the importance of being able to eat in the kitchen?
Price and performance? What exactly is being asked for in terms of information?
This floor plan basically suits us quite well. It’s about more than just the kitchen, and here we actually have two kitchen options: the original room designated as the kitchen in the catalog, and the guest room.
(No, we are no longer considering a completely custom design by an architect. We thought about it when we first had more concrete ideas, but overall that’s not an option for us, and we now want to stay about 99% with the basic house type and provider.)
The kitchen would need to measure 4.55 x 2.40 meters (15 ft x 7 ft 10 in).
Yes, there is a dining area directly adjacent, but I definitely want a closed-off kitchen. We are four people, and I don’t want my young children to mess up the “formal” dining area every morning.
As I mentioned, I saw in the customer house that with a sliding door, a table is possible. Of course, it’s no longer extremely spacious, but it is absolutely within a reasonable range for us.
Widening the house by 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) would be possible given the plot, which would add 4.5 square meters (48 sq ft) to the kitchen, but it would also cost us 27,000 euros overall.
This floor plan basically suits us quite well. It’s about more than just the kitchen, and here we actually have two kitchen options: the original room designated as the kitchen in the catalog, and the guest room.
(No, we are no longer considering a completely custom design by an architect. We thought about it when we first had more concrete ideas, but overall that’s not an option for us, and we now want to stay about 99% with the basic house type and provider.)
The kitchen would need to measure 4.55 x 2.40 meters (15 ft x 7 ft 10 in).
Yes, there is a dining area directly adjacent, but I definitely want a closed-off kitchen. We are four people, and I don’t want my young children to mess up the “formal” dining area every morning.
As I mentioned, I saw in the customer house that with a sliding door, a table is possible. Of course, it’s no longer extremely spacious, but it is absolutely within a reasonable range for us.
Widening the house by 1 meter (3 ft 3 in) would be possible given the plot, which would add 4.5 square meters (48 sq ft) to the kitchen, but it would also cost us 27,000 euros overall.
Mizit schrieb:
Yes, there is a dining area right next to it, but I definitely want a closed kitchen. We are 4 people, and I don’t want to mess up the "formal" dining area every morning with my small children.Yes, that was your priority, I also read that in another thread.
Mizit schrieb:
The kitchen should measure 4.55 x 2.40 m (15 x 8 feet).For a kitchen with a table (3 to 4 people), a minimum width of 270 cm (107 inches) is needed: 70 cm (28 inches) for the kitchen units, 120 cm (47 inches) clearance for the main walkway, and 80 cm (31 inches) for the table width.
Therefore, a kitchen space measuring about 300 x 400 cm (10 x 13 feet) makes more sense.
Hmm, that sounds reasonable. Thanks already.
I would also prefer the room with 12 sqm (130 sq ft) because of the access to the garden. This room would need to be 4.55 x 2.80 m (15 x 9 ft) in size. It’s going to be tight — of course, it would be possible to take 2 sqm (22 sq ft) from the living room. But then we would be under 30 sqm (320 sq ft), and that’s starting to feel too small for us... Or we might really reconsider the option of expanding the kitchen with garden access to about 15 sqm (160 sq ft) and add a bay window at the front to give the living room a bit more space...
I would also prefer the room with 12 sqm (130 sq ft) because of the access to the garden. This room would need to be 4.55 x 2.80 m (15 x 9 ft) in size. It’s going to be tight — of course, it would be possible to take 2 sqm (22 sq ft) from the living room. But then we would be under 30 sqm (320 sq ft), and that’s starting to feel too small for us... Or we might really reconsider the option of expanding the kitchen with garden access to about 15 sqm (160 sq ft) and add a bay window at the front to give the living room a bit more space...
I think you are currently focusing solely on the square meters. It would be much more important to consider the furniture layout—so, to mark where everything should be placed and think about which room can best accommodate a reasonably ergonomic kitchen with enough countertop space.
I could imagine that for the guest room, despite the slightly larger floor area, it might be more difficult due to the position of the door to the hallway. With a dining table, sliding door to the living room, AND a door to the garden, there might only be room for a single kitchen run along the long exterior wall.
By the way, if the kitchen is moved to the guest room, you could close the current sliding door to the existing kitchen and place the TV there—the dining table would then always be next to the kitchen, so it could be located somewhere different from the current plan.
I could imagine that for the guest room, despite the slightly larger floor area, it might be more difficult due to the position of the door to the hallway. With a dining table, sliding door to the living room, AND a door to the garden, there might only be room for a single kitchen run along the long exterior wall.
By the way, if the kitchen is moved to the guest room, you could close the current sliding door to the existing kitchen and place the TV there—the dining table would then always be next to the kitchen, so it could be located somewhere different from the current plan.
Yes, I fear so too. We won’t be able to avoid having an entrance door in the front part of this room. A sliding door might be an option here to save space, since a regular door would require space when opened. By now, I could even see the benefit of not having any direct access to the living room at all. That way, we could place a table all the way to the left against the wall without having to account for the space needed for passage into the living room. But none of this is entirely ideal… I’m afraid if I want to keep my table here, enlarging the house accordingly along with the associated cost might be the more worthwhile option. Otherwise, we might end up regretting it every day.
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