I am currently looking for new faucets, starting with the bathroom. Right now, there is a common single-lever mixer, but in our case, the water is either hot/warm or cold and should not be mixed—or it would be pointless.
Is there another solution besides having two cold water taps connected separately to the respective pipes, since washbasins usually only have one hole?
Basically something like the old-style taps with turn knobs on the left and right, but without the turning handles. Maybe with push buttons?
It should be a bit modern. Also, you don’t want to have to turn the taps for ages until the strongest flow finally comes out.
I have also thought about sensor faucets, but I’m bothered by the batteries.
Somehow, I am missing the right term to search for (searching for “two-temperature faucet” or “faucet without mixer” returns no results).
Is there another solution besides having two cold water taps connected separately to the respective pipes, since washbasins usually only have one hole?
Basically something like the old-style taps with turn knobs on the left and right, but without the turning handles. Maybe with push buttons?
It should be a bit modern. Also, you don’t want to have to turn the taps for ages until the strongest flow finally comes out.
I have also thought about sensor faucets, but I’m bothered by the batteries.
Somehow, I am missing the right term to search for (searching for “two-temperature faucet” or “faucet without mixer” returns no results).
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daniels8726 Jul 2016 14:58Elina schrieb:
When I wash my clothes in the evening, they are often still damp the next morning. I don’t use a hairdryer... It takes a few hours to dry in the air.
The typical Central European, who doesn’t work in a coal mine or construction, can’t possibly smell after going a day without showering.
House climate controlled to 20°C (68°F), outdoor mountain climate (much cooler), exercising in the air-conditioned breeze... The skin also appreciates it when it’s free from parabens and silicones for a day.
Or to quote: “Two to three showers a week are enough,” says Prof. Tilo Biedermann, Director of Dermatology and Allergology at Biederstein, Technical University of Munich.” Source: Merkur Punkt deh eh.Spending the whole day in a jacket, then going to training and sweating from head to toe – the good professor is welcome to come by and have a sniff.
And I take cold showers after sports, with a clear conscience. There’s plenty of water.
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Bieber081526 Jul 2016 22:29Elina schrieb:
Anyone can set the temperature to half a degree precision, right? Is that in the shower, or do you have to step out? Like many people, I shower starting with warm water, then cold.
Despite all individual preferences, I believe a house should have a certain universal appeal. So, if I ever have to sell my house, the average buyer should be able to agree on most features. This includes standard hot and cold water connections. Just my two cents...
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Peanuts7427 Jul 2016 07:15As far as I remember, Elina wanted to save on heating costs for the hot water with this approach. For example, heating 30 liters (8 gallons) of water to 38°C (100°F) requires a certain amount of energy, regardless of whether the water is heated directly to 38°C or mixed from 50°C and 10°C (122°F and 50°F) water in the necessary proportions. Therefore, there are NO or only marginal savings if the tankless water heater operates at a slightly better efficiency point. Whether this is actually the case would have to be investigated first.
Objectively speaking, however, this is an unnecessarily exotic solution that could potentially cause more disadvantages than benefits.
Nowadays, there are excellent shower fittings available. You can easily and very precisely adjust the temperature with one dial and the water flow with another.
For example, with our HG Ecostat Select, this works perfectly*. At the same time, the washing machine can be running, someone else can open another tap, and someone else in the second bathroom can flush the toilet—all without any change in temperature. You don’t notice ANY difference!
By “nothing,” I mean no short fluctuations that don’t matter, but absolutely nothing.
It also offers shelf space for about 8-10 “regular” bottles or tubes of shampoo, shower gel, etc., so you save on additional holes or a separate shelf.
This might sound like an advertisement, but we are simply very impressed with this unit.
The tankless water heater can then be set to heat the water, for example, 2°C (4°F) above the maximum shower temperature, so only a minimal amount of cold water needs to be mixed in. This means the operating point, if it is even within the optimal range, hardly shifts at all.
Objectively speaking, however, this is an unnecessarily exotic solution that could potentially cause more disadvantages than benefits.
Nowadays, there are excellent shower fittings available. You can easily and very precisely adjust the temperature with one dial and the water flow with another.
For example, with our HG Ecostat Select, this works perfectly*. At the same time, the washing machine can be running, someone else can open another tap, and someone else in the second bathroom can flush the toilet—all without any change in temperature. You don’t notice ANY difference!
By “nothing,” I mean no short fluctuations that don’t matter, but absolutely nothing.
It also offers shelf space for about 8-10 “regular” bottles or tubes of shampoo, shower gel, etc., so you save on additional holes or a separate shelf.
This might sound like an advertisement, but we are simply very impressed with this unit.
The tankless water heater can then be set to heat the water, for example, 2°C (4°F) above the maximum shower temperature, so only a minimal amount of cold water needs to be mixed in. This means the operating point, if it is even within the optimal range, hardly shifts at all.
Sir_Kermit27 Jul 2016 08:13Hello,
Kermit
Bieber0815 schrieb:So now there are already 4 cents.
... a house should also have a certain universally valid character.
Peanuts74 schrieb:Not just nowadays. We bought our thermostatically controlled fitting over 10 years ago at a discount supermarket (the one with the "A"). Six months ago, we had to replace it because the mechanism increasingly failed. The replacement is now from Grohe.
These days, there are such great shower fittings.
Kermit
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Peanuts7427 Jul 2016 08:32Certainly, thermostatic shower valves have existed for a long time.
We have already experienced several of them, including some during stays at hotels.
However, with many of the others, the temperature fluctuated quite a bit when the bathroom sink faucet was turned on at the same time or when the washing machine was running.
With this one, however, there was absolutely no noticeable change, which makes the more complex solution unnecessary. Additionally, as mentioned, it offers a nice, spacious shelf area.
To save some money, I would rather choose a tankless water heater that does not shut off or stutter even at low flow rates.
That way, it would be possible to mix easily or significantly reduce the water flow, which would probably save more than any minimal loss in optimal operating conditions would cost.
By the way, if the original poster really wants to stick with this solution, maybe they could look at the American market. As far as I know, it is common there for the faucet to have only one control knob: turning it from zero to full flow regulates the cold water, and then turning it further—while keeping flow at 100%—adjusts the temperature from cold to warm.
We have already experienced several of them, including some during stays at hotels.
However, with many of the others, the temperature fluctuated quite a bit when the bathroom sink faucet was turned on at the same time or when the washing machine was running.
With this one, however, there was absolutely no noticeable change, which makes the more complex solution unnecessary. Additionally, as mentioned, it offers a nice, spacious shelf area.
To save some money, I would rather choose a tankless water heater that does not shut off or stutter even at low flow rates.
That way, it would be possible to mix easily or significantly reduce the water flow, which would probably save more than any minimal loss in optimal operating conditions would cost.
By the way, if the original poster really wants to stick with this solution, maybe they could look at the American market. As far as I know, it is common there for the faucet to have only one control knob: turning it from zero to full flow regulates the cold water, and then turning it further—while keeping flow at 100%—adjusts the temperature from cold to warm.
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