Hello everyone,
I’m curious to see who has creative ideas to help me with my self-built trash bin system:
Problem:
Tears: Due to the lack of a support for the bags, the contents eventually become too heavy, causing the bags to tear in some areas.
Holes: Because of insufficient or improper attachment points, holes develop where trash sometimes falls through, as there are only four spots where the bag can be secured.
Solutions:
Tears: Either attach a board at the bottom for the bag to rest on, so that the weight is no longer on the bag itself. Or buy a custom-sized trash bin or build one yourself from wood.
Holes: Either apply adhesive tape to the bag to pull it up where holes would otherwise form and stick it down (disadvantage: the adhesive eventually loses effectiveness). Or use some kind of ring attachment. Or build a custom solution for the self-built trash bin.
I really need advice. I’m getting desperate here.
Best regards
lagun4
I’m curious to see who has creative ideas to help me with my self-built trash bin system:
Problem:
Tears: Due to the lack of a support for the bags, the contents eventually become too heavy, causing the bags to tear in some areas.
Holes: Because of insufficient or improper attachment points, holes develop where trash sometimes falls through, as there are only four spots where the bag can be secured.
Solutions:
Tears: Either attach a board at the bottom for the bag to rest on, so that the weight is no longer on the bag itself. Or buy a custom-sized trash bin or build one yourself from wood.
Holes: Either apply adhesive tape to the bag to pull it up where holes would otherwise form and stick it down (disadvantage: the adhesive eventually loses effectiveness). Or use some kind of ring attachment. Or build a custom solution for the self-built trash bin.
I really need advice. I’m getting desperate here.
Best regards
lagun4
Choose a bucket with a rim that is larger than the hole. Enlarge the hole, and at the rim area of the bucket, only cut out half the thickness of the countertop so that you can effectively "hang" the bucket in place.
Of course, you will still need to come up with a suitable cover for it.
Of course, you will still need to come up with a suitable cover for it.
If you want to leave it as is, make sure to seal the cut edges of the cover and the opening; otherwise, as mentioned, it won’t hold up for very long.
As an alternative, you can screw Z-profiles under the panel and then get suitable buckets with a bead that can be slid into the rail, provided there is enough space for it.
Edit:
The 5-liter (1.3-gallon) replacement bucket Wesco Ergo Master might fit.
As an alternative, you can screw Z-profiles under the panel and then get suitable buckets with a bead that can be slid into the rail, provided there is enough space for it.
Edit:
The 5-liter (1.3-gallon) replacement bucket Wesco Ergo Master might fit.
Honestly, DIY is not always the best, or even a good, solution...
Apart from the fact that I personally find it looks quite amateurish, you especially need to pay attention to what Neige already mentioned: the edges will swell if you don’t seal them very well.
I know of a similar hole in a worktop used only for organic waste, with a bucket hanging underneath and a very good lid covering the hole. That makes sense because any kind of waste tends to start smelling quite quickly depending on the weather. For that reason, I consider a hole in the lid to be a bad idea, unless you have another lid available. You did mention having a nice lid, but that is not the one shown in the picture, is it?
The frame used to hold the bags is also a poor solution. Unfortunately, sharp objects often end up in the trash, and it has probably happened to everyone that a trash bag leaked, releasing liquid that usually smells bad. What a blessing it is when this happens inside a sealed bucket rather than dripping onto a workmanship-questionable wooden construction.
My honest advice: buy a new countertop and install a ready-made, PRACTICAL waste system underneath.
If you want to get hands-on with waste disposal, build a door system that can be opened with a foot pedal. Very practical, with no odors spreading through the kitchen and no risk of damaging the countertop.
Finally, a small insight from the kitchen owner with the hole for organic waste (by the way, in a non-swelling granite countertop):
She hardly uses it anymore because
1. Not only waste falls into the hole, but also items that shouldn’t go in there but accidentally end up there in the heat of the moment (and then have to be fished out of the organic waste; very pleasant...)
2. Despite a well-closing lid, the waste started smelling quickly, and it turned out much easier and more practical to just use a bowl and, at the end of the day or after cooking, simply take it and dispose of it. The bowl goes into the dishwasher, and that’s it. Much faster than pulling out the bucket, emptying it, cleaning it (important because of smell!), and hanging it back in.
So, I cannot recommend this system, especially not in such an unprofessional version, let alone at all.
Apart from the fact that I personally find it looks quite amateurish, you especially need to pay attention to what Neige already mentioned: the edges will swell if you don’t seal them very well.
I know of a similar hole in a worktop used only for organic waste, with a bucket hanging underneath and a very good lid covering the hole. That makes sense because any kind of waste tends to start smelling quite quickly depending on the weather. For that reason, I consider a hole in the lid to be a bad idea, unless you have another lid available. You did mention having a nice lid, but that is not the one shown in the picture, is it?
The frame used to hold the bags is also a poor solution. Unfortunately, sharp objects often end up in the trash, and it has probably happened to everyone that a trash bag leaked, releasing liquid that usually smells bad. What a blessing it is when this happens inside a sealed bucket rather than dripping onto a workmanship-questionable wooden construction.
My honest advice: buy a new countertop and install a ready-made, PRACTICAL waste system underneath.
If you want to get hands-on with waste disposal, build a door system that can be opened with a foot pedal. Very practical, with no odors spreading through the kitchen and no risk of damaging the countertop.
Finally, a small insight from the kitchen owner with the hole for organic waste (by the way, in a non-swelling granite countertop):
She hardly uses it anymore because
1. Not only waste falls into the hole, but also items that shouldn’t go in there but accidentally end up there in the heat of the moment (and then have to be fished out of the organic waste; very pleasant...)
2. Despite a well-closing lid, the waste started smelling quickly, and it turned out much easier and more practical to just use a bowl and, at the end of the day or after cooking, simply take it and dispose of it. The bowl goes into the dishwasher, and that’s it. Much faster than pulling out the bucket, emptying it, cleaning it (important because of smell!), and hanging it back in.
So, I cannot recommend this system, especially not in such an unprofessional version, let alone at all.
I agree with the previous speakers.
Out of personal interest, I am following this thread. The rare "bioloch" used by Alfred Biolek at the time drew full attention from those who didn’t have one.
Personally, I never implemented it because I didn’t want to cut into my nice countertop.
In DIY projects, the advantage is generally that you can customize the hole to fit the bucket.
But as @Climbee points out: it is completely impractical. When sorting waste, you still have to separate organic from plastic (or non-compostable food waste), which requires a timely transfer to the composter. And even if you don’t compost, you need a bag anyway, which can be filled more easily with any of the available options than through such a hole.
Out of personal interest, I am following this thread. The rare "bioloch" used by Alfred Biolek at the time drew full attention from those who didn’t have one.
Personally, I never implemented it because I didn’t want to cut into my nice countertop.
In DIY projects, the advantage is generally that you can customize the hole to fit the bucket.
But as @Climbee points out: it is completely impractical. When sorting waste, you still have to separate organic from plastic (or non-compostable food waste), which requires a timely transfer to the composter. And even if you don’t compost, you need a bag anyway, which can be filled more easily with any of the available options than through such a hole.
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