ᐅ Air Source Heat Pump vs. Geothermal System for a New 4,300 sq ft House

Created on: 16 Jul 2016 14:55
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markus-db
Hello forum members,

I have already read quite a bit in the discussions about ground-source and air-source heat pumps, but most of the projects were in the range of 150–200 m2 (1600–2150 ft2). Since we are planning to build somewhat larger, I am wondering if this changes the considerations, so I created this thread.

Here’s a brief summary of the key data for the building project:

- Project on the outskirts of Berlin
- New single-family house, not KFW 55 standard (because according to the energy consultant, a ventilation system costing over 20,000 € would be required, which we do not want)
- Exterior walls made of aerated concrete 36 cm (14 inches) thick, no additional insulation
- No fireplace planned or desired
- About 300 m2 (3200 ft2) heated living area from ground floor to attic (GF, 1F, attic)
- About 100 m2 (1075 ft2) heated basement area
- Total heated area: 400 m2 (4305 ft2)
- Heating exclusively via underfloor heating (basement to attic, fully planned)

We decided against a gas heating system because although this might currently be economically more favorable than a heat pump (of any type), sustainability is important to us and we are willing to accept higher costs (especially investment costs).

With our energy consultant, we developed two options:

Always included is a photovoltaic system (nominal capacity about 4.5 kWp) with a buffer tank (probably around 7.5 kWh) – the "idea" is to generate electricity for the heat pump ourselves. Of course, this will not cover the full heat pump demand (see below), but even meeting about 50% annually would help. (Excess electricity produced in summer would be sold.)

Option a) Ground-source heat pump: According to the heating load calculation, we need a system with about 18 kW output and boreholes totaling 440 m (1443 ft) depth in this area. This is divided into 5 boreholes of 88 m (288 ft) each.

We have an offer, but unfortunately, no itemized pricing. Without going into too much detail (since the forum is not for assessing my offer), the total cost for the boring works, a Vaillant heat pump with 19.7 kW / COP 4.7 (standard not specified), 300 l buffer tank, 500 l domestic hot water storage, plus all additional costs comes to 42,500 € gross.

Option b) Air-source heat pump: Here, obviously, no drilling is required. The heat pump is a Heliotherm model with 18.5 kW / COP 4.14 (A2/W35) in fully modulating operation, hydraulically decoupled connection, buffer tank and domestic hot water storage similar to option a). Total cost: 25,000 € gross.

(There are additional costs of about 18,000 € for around 400 m2 (4305 ft2) of underfloor heating, and 15,000 € for the photovoltaic system, but these are the same for both options and are therefore excluded.)

Summary of the heating system costs:

- Ground-source heat pump: 42,500 €
- Air-source heat pump: 25,000 €
- Difference: Ground-source heat pump is 17,500 € more expensive upfront
- Air-source heat pump is less efficient than ground-source, especially in winter when it is needed most, so ground-source is cheaper in ongoing energy use

I have the following questions for the experts:

- Do these considerations make sense overall?
- Is it a good idea to partially cover the heat pump’s electricity demand with a self-generated photovoltaic system?
- From your perspective, is the extra investment of 17,500 € for the ground-source heat pump option worthwhile (also considering the heating load of about 18 kW)?
- What other factors should I be paying attention to?

The overall goal is to implement a sensible but as sustainable as possible energy system for the future, without incurring unnecessary costs (unfortunately, I have not won the lottery and funds are limited).

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to be as precise as possible. If you need more information, please let me know.

Thank you!
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ErikErdgas
19 Jul 2016 09:37
Hello Markus,

even though natural gas is a fossil fuel, its primary energy factor and CO2 emissions are still positive from an ecological perspective. For operating the heat pump in winter, when most of the heating energy is needed, you will hardly be able to rely on your self-generated photovoltaic electricity. Therefore, under normal conditions, the electricity is drawn from the grid with the German power mix, which is by no means CO2-neutral.

@Saruss: A COP above 5 sounds interesting. How would you estimate the proportion for domestic hot water? Is the heat distribution then via underfloor heating?

Best regards, Erik from moderne.Heizung
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Saruss
19 Jul 2016 10:24
In summer, I have a daily electricity demand of about 1 to 1.5 kWh for hot water, which when calculated over the year accounts for somewhere between 25 and 35 percent. However, the brine inlet temperature is quite high in summer, and I keep the hot water temperature relatively low, so the temperature difference is not that high.
And of course, underfloor heating without any heating buffer tank or similar.

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Sebastian79
19 Jul 2016 10:25
@Saruss:

May I ask what temperature you are using, whether you allow the treatment only at certain times, and what hysteresis you have set?
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Saruss
19 Jul 2016 10:35
46°C (115°F), 5°C (9°F) hysteresis, no time specifications. Since we don’t have a large storage tank, the water is replaced frequently enough, so I have little concern about Legionella.

from on the go
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Sebastian79
19 Jul 2016 10:50
OK, thanks for the information.

At the moment, I have 55°C (131°F), also a 5-degree hysteresis, but a time setting (no idea why I even set it). In addition, the circulation pump runs twice a day, but at least in the evening I will turn it off – even without it, it surprisingly takes very little time for hot water to arrive...

However, I have a 400-liter (105-gallon) tank but high water consumption during daily showers.

I still need to experiment with this a bit...
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Bieber0815
19 Jul 2016 11:00
Markus-db schrieb:
total heated area so 400m2 (4306 sq ft)[...] however, sustainability is an important consideration for us
How many people are supposed to live in the 400 m² (4306 sq ft)? (Disclaimer: I don’t really mind, even if it’s only a handful of people. But then it shouldn’t be called “sustainable.” Maybe you are building a multi-family house, which would be more interesting and doesn’t come up very often in this forum.)

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