Hello,
I would like to discuss our planned floor plans here. Attached are the ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) plans. The house is designed for 4 people (+dog) and has just over 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) without a basement, featuring a gable roof with knee walls between 1 and 1.25 meters (3.3 and 4.1 ft), depending on how much is ultimately allowed. The main garden faces south, with about 4 meters (13 ft) of space to the west. On the east side, a 9-meter (30 ft) garage is planned (our neighbor is there). We do not need an extra guest room or office. If an additional room is ever needed later, a section on the ground floor can be partitioned off.
[ B ]Ground Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Decently sized shower bathroom (a shower on the ground floor is necessary, mainly because of the dog). Once the second child arrives, a second comfortable shower bathroom will definitely be practical.
- Kitchen and dining area oriented towards the main garden (south), where we usually spend most of our time
- Small separated area in the living room for a sewing corner with direct access to the living area (we want to be in the same area in the evening, not in separate rooms)
- Lots of natural light
What I am considering:
- Is the staircase size of 1.50 x 2.75 meters (5 x 9 ft) sufficient?
- Is the sewing corner possibly too small? (1.60 x 4 meters / 5.25 x 13 ft)
- Is the area for the coat rack adequate?
[ B ]Upper Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Children’s rooms with dormer windows both facing south and equally sized
- Bedroom facing north (I hate heat when sleeping)
- Separate laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine and dryer
What I am considering:
- Is the bathroom too small? How could it be furnished efficiently? The utility room + bathroom area can of course still be completely changed. Maybe put the utility room entirely to the north so the washing machine and dryer fit under the sloped ceiling? Access to the utility room could also be arranged through the bathroom instead of from the hallway. What are your ideas?
- I am not quite happy with the bottom left corner as a whole. The storage room could also be removed in favor of a larger, more open hallway with a roof window (Velux) and possibly a dresser along the wall plus an armchair?
I look forward to suggestions, critiques, and discussions. These are, of course, not final plans yet, but the dimensions are accurate and should provide a good basis for discussion.
Best regards
Tego
I would like to discuss our planned floor plans here. Attached are the ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) plans. The house is designed for 4 people (+dog) and has just over 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) without a basement, featuring a gable roof with knee walls between 1 and 1.25 meters (3.3 and 4.1 ft), depending on how much is ultimately allowed. The main garden faces south, with about 4 meters (13 ft) of space to the west. On the east side, a 9-meter (30 ft) garage is planned (our neighbor is there). We do not need an extra guest room or office. If an additional room is ever needed later, a section on the ground floor can be partitioned off.
[ B ]Ground Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Decently sized shower bathroom (a shower on the ground floor is necessary, mainly because of the dog). Once the second child arrives, a second comfortable shower bathroom will definitely be practical.
- Kitchen and dining area oriented towards the main garden (south), where we usually spend most of our time
- Small separated area in the living room for a sewing corner with direct access to the living area (we want to be in the same area in the evening, not in separate rooms)
- Lots of natural light
What I am considering:
- Is the staircase size of 1.50 x 2.75 meters (5 x 9 ft) sufficient?
- Is the sewing corner possibly too small? (1.60 x 4 meters / 5.25 x 13 ft)
- Is the area for the coat rack adequate?
[ B ]Upper Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Children’s rooms with dormer windows both facing south and equally sized
- Bedroom facing north (I hate heat when sleeping)
- Separate laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine and dryer
What I am considering:
- Is the bathroom too small? How could it be furnished efficiently? The utility room + bathroom area can of course still be completely changed. Maybe put the utility room entirely to the north so the washing machine and dryer fit under the sloped ceiling? Access to the utility room could also be arranged through the bathroom instead of from the hallway. What are your ideas?
- I am not quite happy with the bottom left corner as a whole. The storage room could also be removed in favor of a larger, more open hallway with a roof window (Velux) and possibly a dresser along the wall plus an armchair?
I look forward to suggestions, critiques, and discussions. These are, of course, not final plans yet, but the dimensions are accurate and should provide a good basis for discussion.
Best regards
Tego
ypg schrieb:
Is it definitely going to be a concrete staircase?No, we are completely flexible here. Visually, we think folded plate staircases are brilliant, but I suspect the cost might not justify it for us (although I haven’t requested any prices yet).
ypg schrieb:
Then it would make sense not to enclose it initially. For your hallway, I also wonder if the staircase might look too bulky as a closed element. However, a concrete staircase is already closed in itself – a wooden staircase is more transparent and even with risers, feels airier than concrete.What kind of staircase would you suggest if we had complete freedom of choice?
kbt09 schrieb:
For floor-to-ceiling windows in the bathroom with neighbors’ views, I tend to prefer a standard window, because there will almost always be some sort of privacy screen in front of it. This way, you might also be able to fit a towel rack or something similar.
In the children’s room, I would first consider the furniture layout. From the position, the desk would probably be somewhere opposite, partly in front of the window. This creates an issue with “messy” cables and blackout options. If the desk partly blocks the window, the lower area is usually hard to shade, so a window that isn’t floor-to-ceiling is often more practical.That makes sense. If not floor-to-ceiling, maybe wider? A 1m (3.3 ft) non-floor-to-ceiling window might look a bit small? The building expert already calculated that the window alone wouldn’t provide enough window area for the bathroom. How can I solve this problem?
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kbt09 schrieb:
Regarding the staircase, I strongly suspect that the cloakroom area in front of the “sewing room” won’t be enough for four people. Particularly since 275 x 150 cm (9 ft x 5 ft) for the staircase is very tight. I quickly sketched this with a floor height of 280 cm (9.2 ft) and a tread width of 90 cm (35 in) with a one-sided handrail:Thanks for the drawing. If it makes sense, we could probably move the living room door wall slightly further towards the top of the plan, which would give about 50 cm (20 in) more space for the staircase. Would that be a good idea?
Tego12 schrieb:
Thanks for the drawing. If it offers any benefits, you could probably move the living room door wall slightly further upward on the plan, which would give about 50cm (20 inches) more space for the stairs. Would that make sense?That was obviously a silly idea on my part, since the upper floor would also be affected 😉 However, 10-20cm (4-8 inches) would be possible, and accordingly shift everything on the upper floor 10-20cm (4-8 inches) further upward on the plan, sacrificing that 10-20cm (4-8 inches) in the children’s rooms (which would cost about 0.5-1 square meters (5-11 square feet) area per children’s room, while the bathroom and bedroom would gain some space). Would that help with the stairs at all or would it be pointless?
Alternatively, the house could be built 10-20cm (4-8 inches) longer, but that obviously leads to higher overall costs, so I’d rather avoid that.
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Bauexperte9 Jul 2016 16:3420 cm (8 inches), so 150x295x150 (59x116x59 inches) would make some difference.
On the ground floor, this would have less impact; on the upper floor, the wall towards the children's bedrooms should actually be moved by 15 to 20 cm (6 to 8 inches).
A floor-to-ceiling height of 280 cm (110 inches) allows for a maximum clear room height of about 250 to 254 cm (98 to 100 inches). This needs to be clarified precisely due to floor construction and other factors.
Slightly wider windows instead of full-height ones could be an option. However, this must be carefully planned because of the sloping roof. Also, in the children's bedrooms, it is best to leave about 60 cm (24 inches) distance from the windows to the walls adjoining the parents' bedroom or the small utility room for wardrobe space.
On the ground floor, this would have less impact; on the upper floor, the wall towards the children's bedrooms should actually be moved by 15 to 20 cm (6 to 8 inches).
A floor-to-ceiling height of 280 cm (110 inches) allows for a maximum clear room height of about 250 to 254 cm (98 to 100 inches). This needs to be clarified precisely due to floor construction and other factors.
Slightly wider windows instead of full-height ones could be an option. However, this must be carefully planned because of the sloping roof. Also, in the children's bedrooms, it is best to leave about 60 cm (24 inches) distance from the windows to the walls adjoining the parents' bedroom or the small utility room for wardrobe space.
Hello,
after a long discussion, we have agreed on the following changes together with the planner:
- a controversial topic, but the staircase will no longer be a concrete staircase; instead, it will be an open staircase (the exact type is yet to be decided, we just prefer the look)
- the knee wall will be raised by 0.2m (8 inches), creating more space in the bathroom and children's rooms
- the gable will be widened by 0.3m (12 inches), providing additional room in the children's bedrooms and ensuring symmetry of the house from the garden view (on the ground floor, there will likely be a set of three doors in the middle, each 0.9m (35 inches) wide; we do not like sliding doors)
- the extra space in the children's rooms will be taken back by moving the staircase and thus the corridors on the upper floor up by 0.2cm (0.08 inches), allowing for a more generously sized staircase. This will also make the utility room on the upper floor larger, so that more cabinets can be placed there. Additionally, the passageway in the walk-in closet will be increased from 0.9m to 1.1m (35 to 43 inches), making it significantly more comfortable.
- attic storage room: we tend to omit this. Thanks to the higher knee wall, cabinets or a chest of drawers could be placed there, and a large roof window would be able to illuminate the corridor.
- two windows on the north side of the ground floor will be widened (1.26m instead of 1m; 50 inches instead of 39 inches)
- instead of a door + window in the entrance area, there will now be a door with a sidelight. This allows better use of the right corner by the entrance for a coat rack.
These were the main points. Any comments? 🙂
Regards
Tego
after a long discussion, we have agreed on the following changes together with the planner:
- a controversial topic, but the staircase will no longer be a concrete staircase; instead, it will be an open staircase (the exact type is yet to be decided, we just prefer the look)
- the knee wall will be raised by 0.2m (8 inches), creating more space in the bathroom and children's rooms
- the gable will be widened by 0.3m (12 inches), providing additional room in the children's bedrooms and ensuring symmetry of the house from the garden view (on the ground floor, there will likely be a set of three doors in the middle, each 0.9m (35 inches) wide; we do not like sliding doors)
- the extra space in the children's rooms will be taken back by moving the staircase and thus the corridors on the upper floor up by 0.2cm (0.08 inches), allowing for a more generously sized staircase. This will also make the utility room on the upper floor larger, so that more cabinets can be placed there. Additionally, the passageway in the walk-in closet will be increased from 0.9m to 1.1m (35 to 43 inches), making it significantly more comfortable.
- attic storage room: we tend to omit this. Thanks to the higher knee wall, cabinets or a chest of drawers could be placed there, and a large roof window would be able to illuminate the corridor.
- two windows on the north side of the ground floor will be widened (1.26m instead of 1m; 50 inches instead of 39 inches)
- instead of a door + window in the entrance area, there will now be a door with a sidelight. This allows better use of the right corner by the entrance for a coat rack.
These were the main points. Any comments? 🙂
Regards
Tego
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