Hello,
I would like to discuss our planned floor plans here. Attached are the ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) plans. The house is designed for 4 people (+dog) and has just over 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) without a basement, featuring a gable roof with knee walls between 1 and 1.25 meters (3.3 and 4.1 ft), depending on how much is ultimately allowed. The main garden faces south, with about 4 meters (13 ft) of space to the west. On the east side, a 9-meter (30 ft) garage is planned (our neighbor is there). We do not need an extra guest room or office. If an additional room is ever needed later, a section on the ground floor can be partitioned off.
[ B ]Ground Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Decently sized shower bathroom (a shower on the ground floor is necessary, mainly because of the dog). Once the second child arrives, a second comfortable shower bathroom will definitely be practical.
- Kitchen and dining area oriented towards the main garden (south), where we usually spend most of our time
- Small separated area in the living room for a sewing corner with direct access to the living area (we want to be in the same area in the evening, not in separate rooms)
- Lots of natural light
What I am considering:
- Is the staircase size of 1.50 x 2.75 meters (5 x 9 ft) sufficient?
- Is the sewing corner possibly too small? (1.60 x 4 meters / 5.25 x 13 ft)
- Is the area for the coat rack adequate?
[ B ]Upper Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Children’s rooms with dormer windows both facing south and equally sized
- Bedroom facing north (I hate heat when sleeping)
- Separate laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine and dryer
What I am considering:
- Is the bathroom too small? How could it be furnished efficiently? The utility room + bathroom area can of course still be completely changed. Maybe put the utility room entirely to the north so the washing machine and dryer fit under the sloped ceiling? Access to the utility room could also be arranged through the bathroom instead of from the hallway. What are your ideas?
- I am not quite happy with the bottom left corner as a whole. The storage room could also be removed in favor of a larger, more open hallway with a roof window (Velux) and possibly a dresser along the wall plus an armchair?
I look forward to suggestions, critiques, and discussions. These are, of course, not final plans yet, but the dimensions are accurate and should provide a good basis for discussion.
Best regards
Tego
I would like to discuss our planned floor plans here. Attached are the ground floor (GF) and upper floor (UF) plans. The house is designed for 4 people (+dog) and has just over 150 sqm (1,615 sq ft) without a basement, featuring a gable roof with knee walls between 1 and 1.25 meters (3.3 and 4.1 ft), depending on how much is ultimately allowed. The main garden faces south, with about 4 meters (13 ft) of space to the west. On the east side, a 9-meter (30 ft) garage is planned (our neighbor is there). We do not need an extra guest room or office. If an additional room is ever needed later, a section on the ground floor can be partitioned off.
[ B ]Ground Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Decently sized shower bathroom (a shower on the ground floor is necessary, mainly because of the dog). Once the second child arrives, a second comfortable shower bathroom will definitely be practical.
- Kitchen and dining area oriented towards the main garden (south), where we usually spend most of our time
- Small separated area in the living room for a sewing corner with direct access to the living area (we want to be in the same area in the evening, not in separate rooms)
- Lots of natural light
What I am considering:
- Is the staircase size of 1.50 x 2.75 meters (5 x 9 ft) sufficient?
- Is the sewing corner possibly too small? (1.60 x 4 meters / 5.25 x 13 ft)
- Is the area for the coat rack adequate?
[ B ]Upper Floor:[/B]
What I like:
- Children’s rooms with dormer windows both facing south and equally sized
- Bedroom facing north (I hate heat when sleeping)
- Separate laundry room on the upper floor for washing machine and dryer
What I am considering:
- Is the bathroom too small? How could it be furnished efficiently? The utility room + bathroom area can of course still be completely changed. Maybe put the utility room entirely to the north so the washing machine and dryer fit under the sloped ceiling? Access to the utility room could also be arranged through the bathroom instead of from the hallway. What are your ideas?
- I am not quite happy with the bottom left corner as a whole. The storage room could also be removed in favor of a larger, more open hallway with a roof window (Velux) and possibly a dresser along the wall plus an armchair?
I look forward to suggestions, critiques, and discussions. These are, of course, not final plans yet, but the dimensions are accurate and should provide a good basis for discussion.
Best regards
Tego
I would reconsider the idea of an open staircase. Storage space for coats, pull-out shoe cabinets, etc., can be better implemented under a closed staircase. And you don’t actually need that much storage for four people.
Regarding brightness, I would rather suggest considering motion sensor lighting for the staircase and hallway.
Regarding brightness, I would rather suggest considering motion sensor lighting for the staircase and hallway.
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Bauexperte8 Jul 2016 21:26Kerstin’s tip is not wrong – take a look at the attachment 😉
Regards, Bauexperte
Regards, Bauexperte
Thanks for your answers!
I still have the following questions:
Stairs: Open or closed, that’s a good question. The pictures from the building expert look really nice, of course. What does a closed concrete staircase look like if nothing is built under it yet? Could the hallway feel too cramped with a closed concrete staircase? Our staircase has two 1/4 turns; I’m having trouble picturing how it might look with a closed concrete stair.
Floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor: There are no floor-to-ceiling windows planned to the east side (i.e., in the bathroom and one of the children’s rooms) in the floor plan. We’re unsure about this. From the interior design standpoint, floor-to-ceiling windows obviously look much nicer, especially in the bathroom, which we really like, but to the east, our neighbor is about 6 to 7 meters (20 to 23 feet) away. How can privacy be ensured in the bathroom? Frosted glass? Pleated blinds? The privacy issue is basically independent of whether the window is floor-to-ceiling or not, so we could still go for floor-to-ceiling windows, right? What about the children’s room? There is already a floor-to-ceiling window in the gable, so would it be better to also have floor-to-ceiling on the east side, or not?
Hall lighting: There will definitely be a double casement window, skylight, or something similar—thanks for the tips on that!
Best regards
I still have the following questions:
Stairs: Open or closed, that’s a good question. The pictures from the building expert look really nice, of course. What does a closed concrete staircase look like if nothing is built under it yet? Could the hallway feel too cramped with a closed concrete staircase? Our staircase has two 1/4 turns; I’m having trouble picturing how it might look with a closed concrete stair.
Floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor: There are no floor-to-ceiling windows planned to the east side (i.e., in the bathroom and one of the children’s rooms) in the floor plan. We’re unsure about this. From the interior design standpoint, floor-to-ceiling windows obviously look much nicer, especially in the bathroom, which we really like, but to the east, our neighbor is about 6 to 7 meters (20 to 23 feet) away. How can privacy be ensured in the bathroom? Frosted glass? Pleated blinds? The privacy issue is basically independent of whether the window is floor-to-ceiling or not, so we could still go for floor-to-ceiling windows, right? What about the children’s room? There is already a floor-to-ceiling window in the gable, so would it be better to also have floor-to-ceiling on the east side, or not?
Hall lighting: There will definitely be a double casement window, skylight, or something similar—thanks for the tips on that!
Best regards
Tego12 schrieb:
What does a closed concrete staircase look like if nothing has been built under it yet? Could the hallway feel cramped if there is a closed concrete staircase? Our staircase is a double quarter-turn; I’m having trouble picturing how it would look as a closed concrete stair.Are you definitely planning to have a concrete staircase?
In that case, it might make sense not to enclose the space underneath at first.
I would also be concerned that a closed staircase could look bulky in your hallway.
However, a concrete staircase is already a solid, closed structure—whereas a wooden staircase tends to be more transparent, and even solid risers can appear lighter than concrete.
You could try to compare how it feels with an open wardrobe underneath versus a closed one. Simply hang some cardboard or boxes to block off the area and see how it affects the space.
Lightweight partition walls, paneling, cladding, or built-in cabinets can always be added later if the open wardrobe isn’t sufficient or looks too messy.
It’s also an option to only enclose the higher part of the staircase (upper side of the plan).
For example, we have a small room about 1 square meter that we use exclusively as a wardrobe under the stairs. It holds a clothes rack on wheels, a shoe shelf, and hanging cabinets for scarves, etc. All current shoes are stored on the floor — a 1 square meter space can hold quite a lot of footwear.
For floor-to-ceiling windows in the bathroom where there is a view from the next door, I tend to prefer a regular window. Because you will almost always have some form of privacy screen in front of it. This way, you might also be able to fit a towel rack or something similar below.
In the children’s room, I would suggest roughly planning the furniture layout. In terms of positioning, the desk would be somewhere opposite, partly likely in front of the window. There is an issue with “messy” cables and blackout solutions. If a desk is partially in front of the window, the lower part is always hard to darken, so a window that is not floor-to-ceiling is usually more practical.
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Regarding the stairs, I strongly suspect that the wardrobe area in front of the “sewing room” will not be sufficient for four people. Especially since 275 x 150 cm (9ft x 5ft) for the stairs is a very tight space. I sketched it quickly with a floor height of 280 cm (9ft) and a 90 cm (35 inch) tread width with a single-sided handrail:
If guests come, then that’s it for capacity. Therefore, you will probably end up occupying the space under the stairs very quickly, and a closed concrete staircase is simply more practical. You could limit built-ins to the area under the straight part. This will make it feel more spacious.
Tischlerei Frind, on your plans, the wall to the living area would be on the right... basically a mirrored layout
In the children’s room, I would suggest roughly planning the furniture layout. In terms of positioning, the desk would be somewhere opposite, partly likely in front of the window. There is an issue with “messy” cables and blackout solutions. If a desk is partially in front of the window, the lower part is always hard to darken, so a window that is not floor-to-ceiling is usually more practical.
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Regarding the stairs, I strongly suspect that the wardrobe area in front of the “sewing room” will not be sufficient for four people. Especially since 275 x 150 cm (9ft x 5ft) for the stairs is a very tight space. I sketched it quickly with a floor height of 280 cm (9ft) and a 90 cm (35 inch) tread width with a single-sided handrail:
If guests come, then that’s it for capacity. Therefore, you will probably end up occupying the space under the stairs very quickly, and a closed concrete staircase is simply more practical. You could limit built-ins to the area under the straight part. This will make it feel more spacious.
Tischlerei Frind, on your plans, the wall to the living area would be on the right... basically a mirrored layout
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