Hello everyone,
We are currently in the decision-making phase for the appliances for our future Schüller country-style kitchen, and we are still quite undecided, especially on this point.
Range hood:
Visually, a retro-style range hood would probably fit best. However, these are usually quite expensive (for example, from Smeg). At the moment, we have planned for an AEG X68163BV10. However, this does not seem to be the best option in this price range. Does anyone have suggestions?
Refrigerator:
For aesthetic reasons, we chose the Geronje ONRK193C. Is it any good? (It costs around 1,100 EUR — we will not buy this together with the kitchen.)
Oven:
For the oven, it was important to us that it has as little stainless steel as possible (we don’t like that) and includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. We narrowed it down to three models (Siemens, Bosch, and Neff). Among these, the following Siemens model was the favorite regarding price/performance: Siemens iQ700 HB678GBS6.
Cooktop (Induction):
We are still uncertain here. Currently, the AEG HK6542H1FB cooktop is planned. However, this also doesn’t seem to be the best choice for the price. Perhaps you have better suggestions? But please nothing much more expensive.
Dishwasher:
For the dishwasher, a Neff GX665 (S52P65X0EU) was recommended to us. However, I have read online that models with zeolite technology are also popular right now. With Siemens/Bosch, there are many reports of problems (error code "E31") online... So we are also quite unsure here.
We are really looking forward to your help and tips.
Thank you very much!
Gatho
We are currently in the decision-making phase for the appliances for our future Schüller country-style kitchen, and we are still quite undecided, especially on this point.
Range hood:
Visually, a retro-style range hood would probably fit best. However, these are usually quite expensive (for example, from Smeg). At the moment, we have planned for an AEG X68163BV10. However, this does not seem to be the best option in this price range. Does anyone have suggestions?
Refrigerator:
For aesthetic reasons, we chose the Geronje ONRK193C. Is it any good? (It costs around 1,100 EUR — we will not buy this together with the kitchen.)
Oven:
For the oven, it was important to us that it has as little stainless steel as possible (we don’t like that) and includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. We narrowed it down to three models (Siemens, Bosch, and Neff). Among these, the following Siemens model was the favorite regarding price/performance: Siemens iQ700 HB678GBS6.
Cooktop (Induction):
We are still uncertain here. Currently, the AEG HK6542H1FB cooktop is planned. However, this also doesn’t seem to be the best choice for the price. Perhaps you have better suggestions? But please nothing much more expensive.
Dishwasher:
For the dishwasher, a Neff GX665 (S52P65X0EU) was recommended to us. However, I have read online that models with zeolite technology are also popular right now. With Siemens/Bosch, there are many reports of problems (error code "E31") online... So we are also quite unsure here.
We are really looking forward to your help and tips.
Thank you very much!
Gatho
Dirk Grafe schrieb:
Well, what else could one say? Every electric current generates a magnetic field; so does the current flowing through your non-inductive electric cooktop. However, you argue that an induction cooktop creates an additional magnetic field. That is simply not correct, with the added complication that power consumption for induction is usually lower than for a traditional electric stove.
So you want to replace a magnetic field with a (potentially stronger) magnetic field – thereby reducing any magnetic exposure. That will be difficult. The only way to solve this dilemma is with a gas stove.That is correct: electric cooktops also generate a magnetic field, but it is indeed less critical than with induction cooktops. This is simply because induction fields operate at a much higher frequency. This very high frequency is, among other things, what can be unhealthy.
We have now purchased our country-style Schüller kitchen and have decided on the following appliances:
Dishwasher
Neff: S52P65X0EU (GX665)
Oven
Siemens: iQ700 HB678GBS6
Cooktop
Bosch: Series 8 PKM875DP1D
Extractor Hood
Schüller hood + Neff fan unit: DML5866N (D58ML66N0)
Refrigerator
Geronje: ONRK193C
The appliances can still be changed. We won’t need the kitchen until the end of the year anyway. What do you think? Okay, the cooktop currently isn’t induction – so that might be open for discussion here. That is partly because of the magnetic field debate but also because we only have one pot and one pan suitable for induction.
The dishwasher appears to use "tank technology," meaning lower water consumption (significant difference: 1820 liters/year (480 gallons/year) versus 2660 liters/year (700 gallons/year)). Do you see this as a potential hygiene issue or more of a good idea?
What are your overall impressions?
Best regards & thanks!
Gatho
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nordanney30 Jun 2016 14:19Dishwasher: Due to recent poor experiences with Neff dishwashers, I would not buy Neff again (dishes do not get properly clean).
Oven: Too expensive compared to better-equipped Bosch models, otherwise very good.
Cooktop: Ceramic glass is a deal-breaker for me (the discussion is still ongoing ).
Hood: Component is okay, but the recirculation mode is weak (according to the datasheet), low noise level, rather high price.
Refrigerator: Acceptable, high price due to the design.
Oven: Too expensive compared to better-equipped Bosch models, otherwise very good.
Cooktop: Ceramic glass is a deal-breaker for me (the discussion is still ongoing ).
Hood: Component is okay, but the recirculation mode is weak (according to the datasheet), low noise level, rather high price.
Refrigerator: Acceptable, high price due to the design.
Thanks for your quick reply, which I would also like to briefly address.
Dishwasher: I had also considered Bosch or Siemens, but it seems the models are really made on the same production line / basically identical!?
Oven: We are currently offered one as part of an anniversary promotion for 1000 EUR (about 1100 USD), so I think that’s fair!? Especially since this is also partially included in the final discount we negotiated. Naturally, the other appliances end up being more expensive when bought with the kitchen than online, as is usually the case. We also preferred Bosch (less stainless steel), but it wasn’t available at that price. We find the Siemens model’s features to be really impressive.
Cooktop: Yes, I understand.
Extractor hood: Okay, we will have to use recirculation as well. But isn’t it true that hoods generally perform worse on recirculation than on ducted extraction for all models? I can’t think of any alternative, especially considering noise level and performance.
Refrigerator: Yes, relatively expensive but also quite large (194 cm (76 inches)) + as you said, the price is also due to its appearance. We will buy the refrigerator ourselves later.
Good luck
Gatho
Dishwasher: I had also considered Bosch or Siemens, but it seems the models are really made on the same production line / basically identical!?
Oven: We are currently offered one as part of an anniversary promotion for 1000 EUR (about 1100 USD), so I think that’s fair!? Especially since this is also partially included in the final discount we negotiated. Naturally, the other appliances end up being more expensive when bought with the kitchen than online, as is usually the case. We also preferred Bosch (less stainless steel), but it wasn’t available at that price. We find the Siemens model’s features to be really impressive.
Cooktop: Yes, I understand.
Extractor hood: Okay, we will have to use recirculation as well. But isn’t it true that hoods generally perform worse on recirculation than on ducted extraction for all models? I can’t think of any alternative, especially considering noise level and performance.
Refrigerator: Yes, relatively expensive but also quite large (194 cm (76 inches)) + as you said, the price is also due to its appearance. We will buy the refrigerator ourselves later.
Good luck
Gatho
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Deliverer30 Jun 2016 15:23Gatho schrieb:
lower water consumption (not insignificant: 1820 liters/year compared to 2660 liters/year). Or put differently: 0.84 m³ (0.93 yd³) per year. With an average household consumption of 200 m³ (234 yd³) per year, that would definitely count as “insignificant, but very much so” to me.
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