Hello everyone,
We are currently in the decision-making phase for the appliances for our future Schüller country-style kitchen, and we are still quite undecided, especially on this point.
Range hood:
Visually, a retro-style range hood would probably fit best. However, these are usually quite expensive (for example, from Smeg). At the moment, we have planned for an AEG X68163BV10. However, this does not seem to be the best option in this price range. Does anyone have suggestions?
Refrigerator:
For aesthetic reasons, we chose the Geronje ONRK193C. Is it any good? (It costs around 1,100 EUR — we will not buy this together with the kitchen.)
Oven:
For the oven, it was important to us that it has as little stainless steel as possible (we don’t like that) and includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. We narrowed it down to three models (Siemens, Bosch, and Neff). Among these, the following Siemens model was the favorite regarding price/performance: Siemens iQ700 HB678GBS6.
Cooktop (Induction):
We are still uncertain here. Currently, the AEG HK6542H1FB cooktop is planned. However, this also doesn’t seem to be the best choice for the price. Perhaps you have better suggestions? But please nothing much more expensive.
Dishwasher:
For the dishwasher, a Neff GX665 (S52P65X0EU) was recommended to us. However, I have read online that models with zeolite technology are also popular right now. With Siemens/Bosch, there are many reports of problems (error code "E31") online... So we are also quite unsure here.
We are really looking forward to your help and tips.
Thank you very much!
Gatho
We are currently in the decision-making phase for the appliances for our future Schüller country-style kitchen, and we are still quite undecided, especially on this point.
Range hood:
Visually, a retro-style range hood would probably fit best. However, these are usually quite expensive (for example, from Smeg). At the moment, we have planned for an AEG X68163BV10. However, this does not seem to be the best option in this price range. Does anyone have suggestions?
Refrigerator:
For aesthetic reasons, we chose the Geronje ONRK193C. Is it any good? (It costs around 1,100 EUR — we will not buy this together with the kitchen.)
Oven:
For the oven, it was important to us that it has as little stainless steel as possible (we don’t like that) and includes a pyrolytic self-cleaning function. We narrowed it down to three models (Siemens, Bosch, and Neff). Among these, the following Siemens model was the favorite regarding price/performance: Siemens iQ700 HB678GBS6.
Cooktop (Induction):
We are still uncertain here. Currently, the AEG HK6542H1FB cooktop is planned. However, this also doesn’t seem to be the best choice for the price. Perhaps you have better suggestions? But please nothing much more expensive.
Dishwasher:
For the dishwasher, a Neff GX665 (S52P65X0EU) was recommended to us. However, I have read online that models with zeolite technology are also popular right now. With Siemens/Bosch, there are many reports of problems (error code "E31") online... So we are also quite unsure here.
We are really looking forward to your help and tips.
Thank you very much!
Gatho
A few more thoughts on electrical appliances:
I really like my cutlery basket.
A nice extra feature on the refrigerator is the "auto-close" function, which pulls the door shut automatically from a certain opening angle.
Energy-efficient dishwashers simply don’t dry the dishes properly – but that’s not a big deal.
I find a steam function for baking bread very convenient (the crust really gets crispy).
I really like my cutlery basket.
A nice extra feature on the refrigerator is the "auto-close" function, which pulls the door shut automatically from a certain opening angle.
Energy-efficient dishwashers simply don’t dry the dishes properly – but that’s not a big deal.
I find a steam function for baking bread very convenient (the crust really gets crispy).
BeHaElJa schrieb:
He said that pieces of potatoes, for example, have often fallen in while frying.Then he doesn’t have the basic model. And that’s actually correct, because the other two versions have significantly worse protection against things falling inside. If something really does fall into the basic model, it’s very easy to remove since the rear grille forms a large recess where water and actual “pieces” can collect before they can enter the system. It would have to be intentional to actually seriously damage the device. The cleaning is very simple because the grille and grease filter can be removed in just a few seconds.
However, what bothers me is the fact that you are tied to Bora and that radiant induction cooktops are disproportionately expensive.What do I need from them again? If I buy a Miele appliance, I also need Miele replacement parts. The grease filter can simply be put in the dishwasher and theoretically lasts “forever.” Eventually, you buy a new one. The top cover of course lasts forever or might eventually break. It’s actually more durable than it looks at first.
What is true though is that radiant induction cooktops are really quite expensive. But with Bora, this option is also brand new. We would have been among the first, but it was too expensive for us.
Again: nothing has EVER fallen or flowed into our unit. We have the basic model.
J
Junkiehoernchen26 Jun 2016 10:04Hello,
We have been using the Bora Basic for two years now. It works great, and we have no food residue buildup in the intake.
We chose the Bora system because, for us, fitting a cooktop island with a conventional extractor hood was a "no-go." This left only three options:
- Built-in ceiling extractor
- Pop-up extractor hood (e.g., Berbel)
- Downdraft extractor
Since we have a ventilation system, we were also unsure how it would behave with cross-ventilation and similar issues. Therefore, ceiling-mounted solutions were under critical consideration but not completely ruled out. Since all pop-up extractors were either very expensive (e.g., Berbel) or not particularly attractive, we excluded this option.
Ultimately, the decision came down to a ceiling extractor or Bora. A good ceiling extractor without built-in casing would have already cost about €1200, plus the costs for casing and cooktop, so for us, the Bora solution was the best option.
We can definitely recommend the Bora Basic system!
However, if our stove had been against a wall, we would have chosen a conventional extractor hood, as that would have been the more affordable option.
Best regards
We have been using the Bora Basic for two years now. It works great, and we have no food residue buildup in the intake.
We chose the Bora system because, for us, fitting a cooktop island with a conventional extractor hood was a "no-go." This left only three options:
- Built-in ceiling extractor
- Pop-up extractor hood (e.g., Berbel)
- Downdraft extractor
Since we have a ventilation system, we were also unsure how it would behave with cross-ventilation and similar issues. Therefore, ceiling-mounted solutions were under critical consideration but not completely ruled out. Since all pop-up extractors were either very expensive (e.g., Berbel) or not particularly attractive, we excluded this option.
Ultimately, the decision came down to a ceiling extractor or Bora. A good ceiling extractor without built-in casing would have already cost about €1200, plus the costs for casing and cooktop, so for us, the Bora solution was the best option.
We can definitely recommend the Bora Basic system!
However, if our stove had been against a wall, we would have chosen a conventional extractor hood, as that would have been the more affordable option.
Best regards
BeHaElJa schrieb:
I find a steam function very helpful for baking bread (the crust really becomes crusty).Off Topic:
What has been your experience with the shelf life of homemade bread?
I’ve been considering a bread machine for some time now. However, I was told that homemade bread tends to become hard very quickly (who knows what additives they put in store-bought bread?). Since I’m almost the only one in my household who eats (dark) bread, I would have to throw it away relatively quickly because I simply can’t consume it that fast.
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alter002927 Jun 2016 09:35I would not recommend a bread machine. I have always been bothered by the holes in the bread caused by the kneading paddle. Otherwise, what you say about the shelf life of homemade bread is correct. That’s why I slice it right after baking (as soon as it has cooled down a bit) and then freeze the bread. I only take out as much from the freezer as I will use within one or two days. To make efficient use of the energy, I always bake three loaves at once. Freezing works just as well with store-bought bread, of course.
alter0029 schrieb:
Freezing also works with store-bought bread, of course. I already do that – if I had to eat a whole loaf by myself, I’d probably need new teeth. When I buy bread, I usually split it in half and freeze one part right away.
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