Hello everyone,
we had architect appointments over the past few days. The result is a (in our opinion) very nice floor plan. We previously had a design from a prefab house company and their planner, but it had many “edges and corners.” This is now a plan from an architect for a solid (masonry) house. It will be a house with a large granny flat on the ground floor for my parents. The rest of the ground floor and the upper floor will be our living space. Unfortunately, the plans don’t include any dimensions or orientations. I am attaching the site plan, where the orientation is correct, with north at the top. I hope you can still take a look and give your initial impressions. We have already noted a few things that will be changed, especially some windows will be made floor-to-ceiling.
So, here we go…
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 710 sqm (7,646 sq ft)
Slope: none
Building envelope: 14 m (46 feet) deep across the entire width of the plot
5 m (16 feet) setback from the street
Only restriction from the development plan: maximum ridge height 9 m (30 feet)
Client Requirements
Urban villa with a hipped roof
no basement, 2 full stories, storage space in the attic
Number of people in granny flat: 2 (mid-60s), and in main house (i.e., the rest) 4 (mid-30s, 8 and 4 years old)
Space requirements: granny flat about 80 sqm (860 sq ft), main house about 160 sqm (1,722 sq ft)
Office (not home office) / guest room: yearly overnight guests >20
modern construction style
open kitchen, possibly with an island
Dining seats usually 4, max 10 (granny flat 2)
Fireplace: no
2x carport, 2x parking spaces
other wishes: strictly 2 bedrooms for the granny flat, no bathtub anywhere in the house, 2 equally sized children’s bedrooms, children’s bathroom
House Design
The house measures 15.5 x 14 m (51 x 46 feet) on the ground floor
Planner: architect
What we particularly like: bedroom layout in the granny flat, basically the entire upper floor in the house, especially the parents’ area.
The furniture shown in the plan is only exemplary and does not correspond to our actual furniture but roughly indicates where furniture will be placed.
Changes to be made: missing door to storage room at the living room, guest room to be slightly enlarged at the expense of the bedroom, bathroom furniture in both master and children’s bathrooms will be completely changed.
What we don’t like: bathroom furniture and equipment
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approximately €430,000
Personal price limit for house including interior: maximum €650,000 total (including €150,000 for the plot)
Preferred heating system: geothermal energy
we had architect appointments over the past few days. The result is a (in our opinion) very nice floor plan. We previously had a design from a prefab house company and their planner, but it had many “edges and corners.” This is now a plan from an architect for a solid (masonry) house. It will be a house with a large granny flat on the ground floor for my parents. The rest of the ground floor and the upper floor will be our living space. Unfortunately, the plans don’t include any dimensions or orientations. I am attaching the site plan, where the orientation is correct, with north at the top. I hope you can still take a look and give your initial impressions. We have already noted a few things that will be changed, especially some windows will be made floor-to-ceiling.
So, here we go…
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 710 sqm (7,646 sq ft)
Slope: none
Building envelope: 14 m (46 feet) deep across the entire width of the plot
5 m (16 feet) setback from the street
Only restriction from the development plan: maximum ridge height 9 m (30 feet)
Client Requirements
Urban villa with a hipped roof
no basement, 2 full stories, storage space in the attic
Number of people in granny flat: 2 (mid-60s), and in main house (i.e., the rest) 4 (mid-30s, 8 and 4 years old)
Space requirements: granny flat about 80 sqm (860 sq ft), main house about 160 sqm (1,722 sq ft)
Office (not home office) / guest room: yearly overnight guests >20
modern construction style
open kitchen, possibly with an island
Dining seats usually 4, max 10 (granny flat 2)
Fireplace: no
2x carport, 2x parking spaces
other wishes: strictly 2 bedrooms for the granny flat, no bathtub anywhere in the house, 2 equally sized children’s bedrooms, children’s bathroom
House Design
The house measures 15.5 x 14 m (51 x 46 feet) on the ground floor
Planner: architect
What we particularly like: bedroom layout in the granny flat, basically the entire upper floor in the house, especially the parents’ area.
The furniture shown in the plan is only exemplary and does not correspond to our actual furniture but roughly indicates where furniture will be placed.
Changes to be made: missing door to storage room at the living room, guest room to be slightly enlarged at the expense of the bedroom, bathroom furniture in both master and children’s bathrooms will be completely changed.
What we don’t like: bathroom furniture and equipment
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approximately €430,000
Personal price limit for house including interior: maximum €650,000 total (including €150,000 for the plot)
Preferred heating system: geothermal energy
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Bauexperte12 Jun 2016 10:19Bellanina schrieb:
Price estimate according to architect/planner: approx. €430,000
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: max €650,000 total (including €150,000 for the plot)
Preferred heating system: geothermal energy What should be included in the planner’s price estimate, and where in NRW is the building site located?
Best regards, Bauexperte
@ypg Thanks for your comments!
We thought about the bathtub for a long time. Of course, we have one in the house now. It hasn’t been used for over a year. Clothes hang over the edge and it’s collecting dust. The tubs I like the look of cost a five-figure amount. And then not use it? We’ll see...
@Bauexperte We’re building in Flamersheim, Euskirchen district.
That’s the price for a turnkey house.
@tomtom79
My parents will move into the granny flat. That’s why it’s so large and tailored to their needs (2 bedrooms are important).
When my parents are no longer around, we’ll have to see what happens next. Possibly the boys will move in there, giving us plenty of space for hobby rooms. Or it could be rented out and the garden separated. In the very distant future, my husband and I might move into the granny flat and rent out the main house.
We thought about the bathtub for a long time. Of course, we have one in the house now. It hasn’t been used for over a year. Clothes hang over the edge and it’s collecting dust. The tubs I like the look of cost a five-figure amount. And then not use it? We’ll see...
@Bauexperte We’re building in Flamersheim, Euskirchen district.
That’s the price for a turnkey house.
@tomtom79
My parents will move into the granny flat. That’s why it’s so large and tailored to their needs (2 bedrooms are important).
When my parents are no longer around, we’ll have to see what happens next. Possibly the boys will move in there, giving us plenty of space for hobby rooms. Or it could be rented out and the garden separated. In the very distant future, my husband and I might move into the granny flat and rent out the main house.
Yes, having the dimensions would definitely be helpful. The rooms look quite large in the pictures at first, but when you see the square meters, you can roughly estimate the actual room sizes.
Tell your architect that each apartment needs exactly 6 square meters (65 square feet) of storage space/room. This was closely checked in our case as well, by the building authority / planning permission office in the EU. Doors are probably about 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide. The bathroom in the granny flat is quite small.
For two residents in their mid-60s, it’s important to consider whether a wheelchair or commode chair can move around easily everywhere. And keep in mind, with a commode chair, there are always two people involved.
On the upper floor, my first impression was that I’d need to puzzle it out first. It takes a while to find your way and figure out the layout. I imagine it could be quite tricky to transport, for example, a mattress into the master bedroom. 🙂
I wouldn’t plan a bathroom completely without a bathtub. Especially with small children, who might get sick or come home soaking wet — then it’s time for a bath. 😉
Tell your architect that each apartment needs exactly 6 square meters (65 square feet) of storage space/room. This was closely checked in our case as well, by the building authority / planning permission office in the EU. Doors are probably about 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide. The bathroom in the granny flat is quite small.
For two residents in their mid-60s, it’s important to consider whether a wheelchair or commode chair can move around easily everywhere. And keep in mind, with a commode chair, there are always two people involved.
On the upper floor, my first impression was that I’d need to puzzle it out first. It takes a while to find your way and figure out the layout. I imagine it could be quite tricky to transport, for example, a mattress into the master bedroom. 🙂
I wouldn’t plan a bathroom completely without a bathtub. Especially with small children, who might get sick or come home soaking wet — then it’s time for a bath. 😉
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