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garfunkel29 May 2016 21:46I’m planning to give notice for my current apartment soon, order furniture, design the kitchen, and so on.
That’s why I’m wondering how long the renovation might still take.
At the moment, everything that needed to be removed is already gone, and now it’s just about rebuilding everything.
This includes, in part, installing screed, electrical wiring, laying floors, tiling the bathroom, plastering, painting, and other usual tasks.
The apartment is currently gutted.
I’m doing most of the work myself or with friends, with very little involvement from professional contractors.
The apartment is 90m² (970 sq ft), with 2.5 rooms plus a bathroom and hallway.
It should be possible to finish this in 3 months, right? What do you think?
That’s why I’m wondering how long the renovation might still take.
At the moment, everything that needed to be removed is already gone, and now it’s just about rebuilding everything.
This includes, in part, installing screed, electrical wiring, laying floors, tiling the bathroom, plastering, painting, and other usual tasks.
The apartment is currently gutted.
I’m doing most of the work myself or with friends, with very little involvement from professional contractors.
The apartment is 90m² (970 sq ft), with 2.5 rooms plus a bathroom and hallway.
It should be possible to finish this in 3 months, right? What do you think?
That depends on how much you do yourselves and how fast you work or how much time you can invest. Three months sounds reasonable to me, but if you dawdle, you won’t be finished even after two years. Coordination of the trades and the specialist company or companies is also important. The tasks build on each other.
Kind regards
Dirk Grafe
Kind regards
Dirk Grafe
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HilfeHilfe30 May 2016 11:10The problem with favors among friends is that you can easily be left hanging. However, I agree with dirk that the coordination of the trades must work properly; if your friends take two weeks of vacation, then there will be delays...
I wouldn’t rely on it being finished in three months.
It really depends on how much time you have. Usually, you should double the time you estimate yourself, and even then, it often takes longer.
I would only terminate the lease once it’s foreseeable that the project will be completed. Anything else is just too big of a risk. Paying an extra month or two of rent shouldn’t be a deal-breaker.
I would first break everything down into individual trades and then estimate how long each one will take, as well as how dependent they are on each other. You’ll often be surprised by how long it actually takes.
It really depends on how much time you have. Usually, you should double the time you estimate yourself, and even then, it often takes longer.
I would only terminate the lease once it’s foreseeable that the project will be completed. Anything else is just too big of a risk. Paying an extra month or two of rent shouldn’t be a deal-breaker.
I would first break everything down into individual trades and then estimate how long each one will take, as well as how dependent they are on each other. You’ll often be surprised by how long it actually takes.
Hello Garfunkel,
hm, 3 months?... My partner and I took over and completely renovated his grandparents' old apartment 7 years ago. For the tasks mentioned above, plus removing walls, leveling surfaces, lowering ceilings, and so on, we spent almost a year on 70m² (750 sq ft). You wouldn’t believe the surprises a 60-year-old house can sometimes hold. We had a lot of support from family, friends, and acquaintances (professionals like tilers, carpenters, painters) and only a little help from contractors. We worked on the apartment about 2 days a week after work and on weekends. At that time, my partner was still working in IT field service, so I often did some work alone.
Plan more time for the project. I would expect at least 6 to 9 months. We moved in once the bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen were finished—probably after about 7 months. The study, living room, and hallway were completed gradually afterwards.
@Dirk Grafe: We weren’t dragging our feet. But the house still had quite a few surprises in store for us.
Best regards, Rina
hm, 3 months?... My partner and I took over and completely renovated his grandparents' old apartment 7 years ago. For the tasks mentioned above, plus removing walls, leveling surfaces, lowering ceilings, and so on, we spent almost a year on 70m² (750 sq ft). You wouldn’t believe the surprises a 60-year-old house can sometimes hold. We had a lot of support from family, friends, and acquaintances (professionals like tilers, carpenters, painters) and only a little help from contractors. We worked on the apartment about 2 days a week after work and on weekends. At that time, my partner was still working in IT field service, so I often did some work alone.
Plan more time for the project. I would expect at least 6 to 9 months. We moved in once the bedroom, bathroom, and kitchen were finished—probably after about 7 months. The study, living room, and hallway were completed gradually afterwards.
@Dirk Grafe: We weren’t dragging our feet. But the house still had quite a few surprises in store for us.
Best regards, Rina
Espenlaub schrieb:
@Dirk Grafe: We didn’t delay. But the house still had quite a few surprises in store for us.
Best regards, RinaYes, that’s just how it is with older houses and shouldn’t be underestimated. My front house dates back to 1918, almost 100 years old, and the rest was built in 1978, so almost 40 years old as well. During renovation/remodeling, some issues came up that led to changes, postponements, or prioritizations compared to the original plan. We didn’t quite manage to stick to the schedule either, although I would argue that even if you have everything planned out by a general contractor/architect, it’s nearly impossible to do so perfectly.
There’s always a residual risk.
Best regards,
Dirk Grafe
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