ᐅ Our proposed floor plan – feedback welcome

Created on: 12 May 2016 16:57
M
Mizit
If we decide to go ahead with a current purchase option for a plot of land, this house type with the floor plans attached below would currently be our first choice. It represents a compromise between the required rooms and the price. However, we wouldn’t want to fully adopt the floor plan 100% as is – the extent to which changes are actually possible will depend on the budget, especially considering the already quite high price per square meter here. Our room for upgrades will therefore not be very generous...

Zoning plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 550 sqm (5920 sq ft)
Slope: minimal
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and building boundary: the house could definitely be realised within these
Perimeter development
Number of parking spaces
Number of floors: all options possible
Roof shape: no specifications
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights/restrictions
Other requirements

Homeowners’ requirements
Architectural style, roof shape, building type: single-family house, initially aiming for a gable roof
Basement, floors: basement still uncertain, 2 full floors would obviously be great
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child + 1 baby, possibly 1 more maximum
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: at least 2 children’s rooms, office absolutely necessary
Office: family use or home office? Professionally required office, potential use as guest room under consideration
Guests per year: quite a few visits expected
Open or closed architecture: want a closed kitchen!
Conservative or modern construction: hmmm
Open kitchen, kitchen island: closed kitchen
Number of dining seats: table in kitchen with 4 chairs, dining table with 6 chairs
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: not very important
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage to be integrated into the basement if there is one
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes/special features/daily routine:

House design
Who planned it:
- Planner from a construction company, part of a general contractor’s series
- Architect
- DIY by you
What do you like most? An eventual third child suddenly possible
What don’t you like? Kitchen is too small for me, too few windows?
Estimated price according to architect/planner: expected to cost around 227,000 euros without painter and flooring work
Personal budget limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: definitely no ground source heat pump

If you have to give up something, which details/extensions:
- Can you do without: upper bathroom could be smaller, guest room not absolutely necessary
- Can you not do without: we need 2 bathrooms with showers, I want to have the option of placing a small table in the kitchen

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Perhaps you can give us your assessment on the following points:

1. At 152 sqm (1635 sq ft) of floor area, the house is not “small” – but we have also heard opinions that the children’s rooms are too small, the living-dining area is rather small, there is hardly any space for a play corner, and that the kitchen is too small; also the entrance area might be too small for a family of four with corresponding coats, shoes, cupboards. Does that also seem true to you at first glance?

2. I definitely want a closed kitchen and according to the general contractor, this is feasible here. But I also want a small table with 4 chairs in the kitchen. I don’t want to mess up the living room dining area every morning having breakfast with the children; I want to be able to quickly sweep the kitchen instead. I’m open for kitchen layout ideas. I’m not a master cook and it’s not a hobby for me, so I definitely don’t need a luxury kitchen with all the bells and whistles. But I really want this small table with 4 seats. Is that even possible in just under 11 sqm (118 sq ft)?

3. Since I fear the kitchen is too small for this, we had the idea to turn the 12 sqm (129 sq ft) guest room into the living room by removing the wall. The kitchen would then be extended towards the living room. Does that make sense?

4. Some comments on the floor plan mentioned that there are too few windows and that the house will not be very bright. Brightness is important to me though. Architecturally, it should be possible to add another window in the kitchen and also add skylights to the children’s rooms, right? But do you have any idea what such additional windows would cost? Are we talking around 500 euros (about 550 US dollars) or closer to 5,000 euros (about 5,500 US dollars) per window or something completely different?

Thanks for every opinion!

Grundriss eines Wohnhauses: Wohnzimmer mit Essecke, Gästezimmer, Küche, Diele, Dusche, HWR.


Grundriss eines Hauses: Flur verbindet Kind 1, Kind 2, Eltern, Home-Office und Bad.
M
Mizit
13 May 2016 09:10
No idea if and which plots of land Kern-Haus offers in this region. As mentioned, it doesn't concern us. But even if they do offer plots: what’s wrong with that?
MarcWen13 May 2016 09:19
There is nothing wrong with it; I was just curious about how K would have separated it.
B
Bauexperte
13 May 2016 10:06
Hello Marcus,
MarcWen schrieb:

For example, we got to K because they had a plot in their pool that we liked.
It is new to me that Kern-Haus has a plot pool; they handle it like most other providers: they option these plots for a period of "x." During this time, they promote them, and naturally, any interested party who is enthusiastic about one of their plots must also build with them.

The question of "separation" is tricky again; but it often works.

Best regards, Bauexperte
M
Mizit
13 May 2016 11:18
Do you think widening the house by one meter makes sense and can be done without any problems? At 1,500 euros per square meter, that would mean an additional 27,000 euros, but if we widen on the left side, each children's room would gain about 4 square meters (43 square feet) right away.
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Doc.Schnaggls
13 May 2016 14:43
Hello,

to revisit the posted floor plan:

I would carefully reconsider the layout of the bathroom in the attic. As it is shown, when you open the door, you are directly facing the toilet.

Personally, I don’t find that very appealing.

Therefore, my suggestion would be to place the toilet (if technically possible) along the opposite exterior wall and install the bathtub in the corner opposite the door (potentially positioned slightly angled).

Also, a note regarding the shower on the ground floor – 80 x 80 cm (31 x 31 inches) is not really spacious. I would recommend at least an 80 x 90 cm (31 x 35 inches) or larger shower tray.

Regards,

Dirk
M
Mizit
13 May 2016 15:02
It now seems almost naive to me that a few weeks ago I thought this floor plan was ideal. So, thank you for all the comments.