ᐅ IKEA Kitchen Quality and User Experiences?

Neige schrieb:
I clearly question the claim of better quality here.
What exactly are you comparing—the price of IKEA versus that of a kitchen fitter?
One fact is clear: the quality of furniture from a kitchen fitter cannot be compared to IKEA’s because there are significant differences. This is reflected in the price.

Take a look at the video I mentioned. That says a lot about the so-called "quality difference."
In my opinion, much of the price comes down to the brand name. In the end, it’s all just particleboard with fittings everywhere.

Neige schrieb:
But comparing an IKEA kitchen with other options based on price is simply nonsense—it doesn’t work.

Why not?

When it comes to quality, the differences are significant. I don’t agree with the statement: "…it’s all just particleboard with fittings everywhere."
The differences start with the quality of the substrate board. MDF is not the same as MDF, just like chipboard varies in quality. Then there is the surface finishing, which also varies. Foil, lacquered foil, lacquer layers applied using different methods, HPL, CPL, veneered surfaces (with variations here as well), plus the type and treatment of the edges—all these factors matter.
Then there are the fittings, which also show some differences.
This list could go on indefinitely.

For these reasons alone, such a comparison cannot be made.

To make a proper comparison, everything—absolutely everything—must be exactly the same. Even then, if it were possible to align all parameters perfectly, each workshop or furniture store will price differently, just as every kitchen cabinetmaker will approach the work differently.

Just to be clear, I’m not trying to badmouth IKEA kitchens. You can do without some features, and these kitchens are certainly not bad.
But in my opinion, they definitely cannot be compared to kitchens from other manufacturers.

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Neige schrieb:

One thing is certain: the quality of furniture from a kitchen specialist and that of IKEA cannot be compared, as there are significant differences. This is also reflected in the price.

Yes, I understand if IKEA’s quality is not sufficient for someone. I’ve had one myself and have assembled one before. I’ve also removed an old Faktum kitchen, and it held up really well. I can live with that.

No one would ever compare a Porsche to a VW Golf station wagon. It’s just not possible.

The original poster’s question was whether IKEA kitchens are any good. And yes, in my opinion, they are. I and others for whom I have assembled a Faktum kitchen (the oldest is now about 12 years old) have had no regrets to this day.

Since you only had one quote—what exactly was it for, which brand? Carpenter?—you can’t really say anything definitive about prices... we had demolition companies quoting €20,000 (about $22,000) and others for €5,000 (about $5,500).

I think that was put well. The quality of a kitchen is not defined by the color or the number of doors.

Neige schrieb:
When it comes to quality, the differences are significant. I don’t want to accept the statement: "…it’s all just particle board with fittings everywhere."
The differences already start with the quality of the substrate board. MDF is not just MDF, just like with particle boards. Then there’s the coating, which also varies. Film, lacquered film, paint layers applied through different processes, HPL, CPL, veneered surfaces (which also vary), the type of edging and how it’s finished all play a role.
Next are the fittings, where there are also differences.
This can go on indefinitely.
For these reasons alone, a direct comparison is not possible.
To make a proper comparison, everything — absolutely everything — must be exactly the same. Even if you manage to align all parameters, every showroom or furniture store will price differently, just as every kitchen cabinet maker will have different calculations.
Mind you, I am not trying to badmouth IKEA kitchens. If you can compromise on some aspects, their kitchens are certainly not bad.
But in my opinion, they definitely cannot be compared with other manufacturers directly.

I purposely phrased it somewhat provocatively, thanks for your reply.
But aren’t these equipment features? If I order a kitchen that looks "normal" at IKEA or somewhere else, shouldn’t the price be comparable? Of course, if the edging is more elaborate, etc., the price can be higher.
But isn’t that the case — where does the price come from?
According to the expert, there are no quality differences, so the price difference must come from the range of features or the brand name.

And if everything had to be identical to compare, then you actually couldn’t compare a single kitchen, could you?