ᐅ Underfloor Heating vs. Panel Radiators

Created on: 18 Mar 2016 13:31
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Mizit
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Mizit
18 Mar 2016 13:31
Somehow, we always assumed that underfloor heating is practically standard in new builds nowadays.

However, in the specification from Kern-Haus, we have now seen that this is not the case. Kern-Haus plans to install a Wolf gas-solar heating system "CSZ-2" and panel radiators.

Out of curiosity, we asked what it would cost to upgrade to underfloor heating for a house of about 150 m² (1600 sq ft), but we have not received an answer yet. We would also welcome any estimates or opinions from here 🙂

Personally, I am not really a fan of underfloor heating. We currently have it here, and I find it extremely difficult to find the perfect temperature. I prefer a radiator because I can turn it off or on exactly as needed. My husband tends to prefer underfloor heating.

Of course, radiators take up some space, and the appearance is a matter of personal taste.

Are radiators really considered outdated, or are there still others who could imagine having them in a new build?
andimann18 Mar 2016 13:42
Hello,

No, radiators are not outdated. We seriously considered switching back to radiators from underfloor heating on the upper floor. I find the option to lower the temperature for sleeping, especially in bedrooms and children’s rooms, very convenient. And that’s almost impossible with underfloor heating.

One reason for the trend towards underfloor heating is probably heat pumps. With the common air-to-water heat pumps, you can’t efficiently achieve the supply temperatures required for radiators. It might be different with ground source heat pumps, but you can basically say that radiators require supply temperatures that almost always necessitate a gas condensing boiler to be economical. (If you want to keep it cost-effective...)

Despite having a gas condensing boiler, we stayed with underfloor heating. Was it the right choice? Ask me again in a year… ;-)

Best regards,

Andreas
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Legurit
18 Mar 2016 13:50
The advantage of surface heating systems is that you can operate with very low watts per square meter since you have many square meters. This allows for correspondingly low supply temperatures for the heating system, which in turn enables efficient use of heat pumps.

Radiators in the bedrooms might allow for nighttime temperature reduction, although I’m not entirely sure how effective or quick this is—our house is so slow to respond that turning off the heating initially has no effect; it also has underfloor heating. Heat storage in building components should theoretically work the same way with conventional radiators, and nowadays, heat loss through external walls is quite minimal.
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nordanney
18 Mar 2016 13:52
Mizit schrieb:
Are radiators really that "out," or are there more people who could imagine having them in a new build?

Yes, radiators are largely considered outdated in new builds. I can’t think of any reason to choose radiators—except perhaps the slightly lower cost.
- Underfloor heating is designed to maintain the ideal temperature throughout the house, so no further adjustments are usually needed
- With a controlled ventilation system, the temperature tends to be fairly consistent across different rooms anyway
- No walls spoiled by radiators
- More comfortable heat and also more pleasant floor temperatures
- Increased value of the house
andimann18 Mar 2016 13:54
Hi,
BeHaElJa schrieb:
Thermal storage in building components should actually work the same with conventional radiators, and heat loss to the outside is just poor nowadays.

No, with radiators it works somewhat. The screed seems to be a bit cooler, so the temperature does drop after some time. You can reduce it by about 2-3°C (3.6-5.4°F) fairly well. And that's usually enough...

Best regards,

Andreas
Mycraft18 Mar 2016 18:01
2-3 degrees Celsius (36-37.5°F) also work perfectly well with underfloor heating...

In my opinion, radiators no longer have a place in modern houses...

Among other reasons, because they require a second heating circuit plus additional control technology and definitely higher flow temperatures, which automatically means increased energy consumption.