Hello everyone.
We met with our architect yesterday, and he said that, cost-wise, there is no difference in constructing the ground floor ceiling as a concrete slab.
Until now, I thought that a wooden beam ceiling was the more affordable option...
(It was our first meeting)
Just an initial introduction.
Can anyone share their experience with this or have faced the same decision?
The reason is that we plan to convert the attic.
It will include a children’s room, a shower bathroom, and a guest room, and I have concerns about sound insulation and overall noise transmission.
Thank you very much.
Good luck.
We met with our architect yesterday, and he said that, cost-wise, there is no difference in constructing the ground floor ceiling as a concrete slab.
Until now, I thought that a wooden beam ceiling was the more affordable option...
(It was our first meeting)
Just an initial introduction.
Can anyone share their experience with this or have faced the same decision?
The reason is that we plan to convert the attic.
It will include a children’s room, a shower bathroom, and a guest room, and I have concerns about sound insulation and overall noise transmission.
Thank you very much.
Good luck.
[I guess it depends...
You can hear noisy upstairs neighbors or flying plates even through a concrete ceiling. And if there’s a chimney passing through, even more so. You can definitely do something about impact sound; above the exposed wood ceiling (which was important to us), we added a loose-fill insulation layer, and on top of that is the upper floor structure. And of course, underfloor heating—including upstairs. What would be the reason not to do this?
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Ok, that’s something I haven’t heard before.
I always assumed underfloor heating was only feasible together with a concrete ceiling.
Thanks for the tip!
It’s just a matter of planning. You wouldn’t place the living or bedroom beneath the upper floor bathroom—or would you want to run the waste pipes past the sofa on the way down?
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The upstairs toilet will be located above the bathroom on the ground floor, or above the utility room (my current assumption).
But that is the architect’s job.
In our current apartment, it’s like this: you can hear noises (not insignificant ones—we want to avoid them in the new build) not only from the rooms directly above you but also from those diagonally above.
Good luck.]
You can hear noisy upstairs neighbors or flying plates even through a concrete ceiling. And if there’s a chimney passing through, even more so. You can definitely do something about impact sound; above the exposed wood ceiling (which was important to us), we added a loose-fill insulation layer, and on top of that is the upper floor structure. And of course, underfloor heating—including upstairs. What would be the reason not to do this?
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Ok, that’s something I haven’t heard before.
I always assumed underfloor heating was only feasible together with a concrete ceiling.
Thanks for the tip!
It’s just a matter of planning. You wouldn’t place the living or bedroom beneath the upper floor bathroom—or would you want to run the waste pipes past the sofa on the way down?
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The upstairs toilet will be located above the bathroom on the ground floor, or above the utility room (my current assumption).
But that is the architect’s job.
In our current apartment, it’s like this: you can hear noises (not insignificant ones—we want to avoid them in the new build) not only from the rooms directly above you but also from those diagonally above.
Good luck.]
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Doc.Schnaggls8 Feb 2016 09:50Hello,
the argument that wooden beam ceilings don’t work with underfloor heating is complete nonsense...
We have a wooden beam ceiling with a standard screed on top, which includes an integrated water-based underfloor heating system.
I believe the sound insulation depends primarily on the basic construction of the ceiling.
In our case, you can hardly hear anything from the upper floor – no footsteps and not even the shower...
Regards,
Dirk
the argument that wooden beam ceilings don’t work with underfloor heating is complete nonsense...
We have a wooden beam ceiling with a standard screed on top, which includes an integrated water-based underfloor heating system.
I believe the sound insulation depends primarily on the basic construction of the ceiling.
In our case, you can hardly hear anything from the upper floor – no footsteps and not even the shower...
Regards,
Dirk
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Bauexperte8 Feb 2016 11:23Hello Dirk,
Are you sure that cement screed was installed, and not a dry screed?
Regards, Bauexperte
Doc.Schnaggls schrieb:This piques my interest; sorry for my curiosity
We have a wooden beam ceiling with a standard screed on top, which includes an embedded hydronic underfloor heating system.
Are you sure that cement screed was installed, and not a dry screed?
Regards, Bauexperte
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Doc.Schnaggls8 Feb 2016 11:39Hello Martina,
yes, definitely.
This is how our bathroom floor (top floor) looked before the screed was poured:
On top of that, a standard screed layer was applied.
Regards,
Dirk
yes, definitely.
This is how our bathroom floor (top floor) looked before the screed was poured:
On top of that, a standard screed layer was applied.
Regards,
Dirk
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Doc.Schnaggls8 Feb 2016 17:23Hello,
Our ceiling has a total thickness of 46 cm (18 inches) – 30 cm (12 inches) wooden beam ceiling plus 16 cm (6 inches) screed. On top of that comes the floor covering.
I can look up the exact structure for you tomorrow – at the moment I’m on the go and don’t have my construction specification with me...
This ceiling assembly is standard with our house manufacturer – we didn’t choose anything special.
Best regards,
Dirk
Our ceiling has a total thickness of 46 cm (18 inches) – 30 cm (12 inches) wooden beam ceiling plus 16 cm (6 inches) screed. On top of that comes the floor covering.
I can look up the exact structure for you tomorrow – at the moment I’m on the go and don’t have my construction specification with me...
This ceiling assembly is standard with our house manufacturer – we didn’t choose anything special.
Best regards,
Dirk
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