Hello everyone,
We are not happy that one of the children’s rooms on the upper floor is so small.
Our priorities are:
- The master bedroom should be approximately this size
- Small storage room for the vacuum cleaner
- More spacious bathroom with a large shower, bathtub, and double vanity
- No dark hallway
- Possibly a separate living unit on the upper floor later (for rental, also an additional separate apartment in the basement)
- Roughly equal size children’s rooms
Do you have any other ideas? Picture attached.
Development plan/restrictions: none
Plot size: 620 m² (6676 sq ft)
Slope: no
Number of floors: 2 + basement
Roof type: hipped roof with a peak
Design style: urban villa
Clients’ requirements
Number of people, ages: 2 adults + 2 children planned
Space needed on ground floor and upper floor: 70 - 80 m² (750 - 860 sq ft)
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine: -
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company: no
- Architect: no
- Do-it-yourself by you: yes
What do you like in particular?: indoor balcony above the front door, front door opens and you can look into the garden :-)
What don’t you like? Upper floor: child’s room of 13.77 m² (148 sq ft) is too small – but we need a small storage room for the vacuum cleaner
Price estimate according to architect/planner: ???
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 450,000 €
Preferred heating system: -
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: bathroom dimensions, U-shaped staircase, indoor balcony (but hallway on upper floor should not be dark), separate toilet on upper floor
- cannot give up: hallway width on ground floor, kitchen size, living room size (possibly can be 20 - 40 cm (8 - 16 inches) narrower), cloakroom, laundry chute, chimney and fireplace, shower on every floor, master bedroom dimensions
We are not happy that one of the children’s rooms on the upper floor is so small.
Our priorities are:
- The master bedroom should be approximately this size
- Small storage room for the vacuum cleaner
- More spacious bathroom with a large shower, bathtub, and double vanity
- No dark hallway
- Possibly a separate living unit on the upper floor later (for rental, also an additional separate apartment in the basement)
- Roughly equal size children’s rooms
Do you have any other ideas? Picture attached.
Development plan/restrictions: none
Plot size: 620 m² (6676 sq ft)
Slope: no
Number of floors: 2 + basement
Roof type: hipped roof with a peak
Design style: urban villa
Clients’ requirements
Number of people, ages: 2 adults + 2 children planned
Space needed on ground floor and upper floor: 70 - 80 m² (750 - 860 sq ft)
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes/special features/daily routine: -
House design
Who created the plan:
- Planner from a construction company: no
- Architect: no
- Do-it-yourself by you: yes
What do you like in particular?: indoor balcony above the front door, front door opens and you can look into the garden :-)
What don’t you like? Upper floor: child’s room of 13.77 m² (148 sq ft) is too small – but we need a small storage room for the vacuum cleaner
Price estimate according to architect/planner: ???
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 450,000 €
Preferred heating system: -
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
- can you give up: bathroom dimensions, U-shaped staircase, indoor balcony (but hallway on upper floor should not be dark), separate toilet on upper floor
- cannot give up: hallway width on ground floor, kitchen size, living room size (possibly can be 20 - 40 cm (8 - 16 inches) narrower), cloakroom, laundry chute, chimney and fireplace, shower on every floor, master bedroom dimensions
What does this have to do with selfishness? You have to consider that you always have to be on your children to clean up their rooms. And it’s understandable that when you have to share a room with siblings, the desire for private space is greater than for an only child. Everyone has their own perspective. That’s why I think having more bathrooms is even more important. When my children (both girls) get older or reach puberty, a third bathroom is more practical because I don’t want to have to “wait in line” and ask, “How much longer will you be?” or “I need to use the bathroom,” only to find that both bathrooms are occupied for at least 30 minutes. 😕 🤨
arubau36 schrieb:
What does that have to do with selfishness? You always have to be the one to make the kids tidy up their rooms. You see, it’s about you, so ego. Both with the bathroom and the tidying up.
You have to clean up anyway, even if the kids are playing in the living room.
My parents have 3 bathrooms; the third was used twice a year, and the second one mostly just as a toilet.
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famke_ausb18 Nov 2015 18:35I find the discussion about children’s rooms interesting. Currently, we still live in a three-room apartment. Our kids (5 and 1 year old) have to share a room of 14m² (150 ft²).
In the house, they will each have a room of about 12m² to 13m² (130 to 140 ft²)... Too small?!?
As someone else already mentioned: bigger is "nice to have."
If the children are used to larger rooms (whether due to a large apartment or a previous house), then a smaller room would certainly be a drawback.
It’s always a matter of perspective.
In the house, they will each have a room of about 12m² to 13m² (130 to 140 ft²)... Too small?!?
As someone else already mentioned: bigger is "nice to have."
If the children are used to larger rooms (whether due to a large apartment or a previous house), then a smaller room would certainly be a drawback.
It’s always a matter of perspective.
If it’s ego, then a healthy ego. I wonder, Saruss, do you have children? Kids do what they want, not what they are supposed to do. And about my ego... my children (5 and 2 years old) who share a room of 15cm (6 inches), and my son, 17 years old, with his own room of 11m² (118 ft²), are also happy like this. And so far, no one has asked, “Mom, I would like a bigger room.” Instead, it’s: “I want this and that toy.” Wanting, wanting, but tidying up? No way. So, as I said, you have to stay on top of things afterward. 🙂
arubau36 schrieb:
If it’s ego, then a healthy ego. I wonder, do you (Saruss) have children? Kids do what they want, not what they’re supposed to do. 😕 Yep. But this isn’t about children in general (you can start a separate thread for that), it’s about room sizes; I’ve shared my (!!) experiences and my views on childhood/opportunities for children. You just have to accept that; of course, you’re welcome to share your opinion about mine. Just like with opinions on what a healthy ego is and what isn’t, everyone is entitled to their own view.
Of course, I accept that. The question was how we find the floor plan. So I just gave my subjective opinion. And the examples (which are actually not examples but empirical values) show that the concept of room sizes concerns adults more. Children, on the other hand, are not interested—at least my children haven’t been so far. 🙂
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